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26 Mar 2019
@ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.deAnsgarAs a person with crazy ideas: why don't we have a debian.org-Matrix homeserver? With native Debian rooms :)10:31:46
@highvoltage:matrix.orghighvoltageI don't actually think that's such a crazy idea10:35:01
@highvoltage:matrix.orghighvoltagealthough it would have to start out as a debian.net service until it has proved itself10:35:29
@ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.deAnsgarHmm, I would like to avoid renaming it. That only creates problems. We have non-DSA services under debian.org too: namely irc.debian.org. For the very first experimental stage, running it under debian.net is fine, but even there we cannot use "#debian:debian.net" as that would require changes to the debian.net zone. (I stole matrix.d.n and chat.d.n to be able to play a bit later ;))10:40:48
@ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.deAnsgarI though a bit about what one could do to start simple: No user registrations to start with (to avoid clashes with the regular account namespace); might be possible later. Just host rooms at start.10:45:40
@highvoltage:matrix.orghighvoltageyeah10:46:00
@highvoltage:matrix.orghighvoltageI had another idea too but let me PM you10:46:20
@utkarsh-2102:matrix.orgutkarsh2102Just btw, do we have an exact amount of work left for packaging?10:48:50
@utkarsh-2102:matrix.orgutkarsh2102A task list, I mean^10:48:59
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshactually, not really: it would be enough to put a single file under https://debian.net/.well-known/11:10:32
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewsh Ansgar: ↑ 11:11:08
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshalternatively, under https://debian.org/.well-known πŸ™‚11:12:09
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshthe server itself can still live at *.debian.net11:12:38
@madduck:madduck.netmadduck ➬ joined the room.11:19:44
@ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.deAnsgar andrewsh: yes, but debian.net would need a change one cannot do.
Using :debian.net instead of :debian.org permanently would be fine too. DSA might like that more.
11:32:54
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshI’m not sure what change do you mean?11:33:21
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewsha file at debian.org might direct everyone to, say, chat.debian.net11:34:03
@ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.deAnsgar andrewsh: The change of creating that file. 11:47:27
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshright, you probably meant debian.org not debian.net11:47:51
@ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.deAnsgarWell, it needs the same change for either domain. And debian.net would in addition need working https.11:51:25
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@madduck:madduck.netmadduck ➬the question of org vs. net long-term is one of whether the homeserver should be for DDs only, or everyone.12:18:34
@madduck:madduck.netmadduck ➬ and if the former, then even though matrix.debian.net will be the beginning, we should be using :debian.org from the start since it's not possible to move or redirect yet 12:19:17
@ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.deAnsgar

madduck ➬: I agree that we don't want to move, but having :debian.net might be okay too; I have no strong opinion on that (though users might be confused as usual...)

To start with, I would just disable user registration. That makes life easier. Should we enable user registration in the future, I would like to avoid clashes between the regular debian.org account namespace , i.e. only allow to use the same name as on has there.

12:25:00
@uhoreg:matrix.orguhoreg
In reply to @highvoltage:matrix.org
any other debian channels on here that's interesting?
There's also #debian:matrix.org, which is for general Debian discussion (whereas this room is mostly for discussing packaging of Matrix-related software)
12:42:36
@ansgar:matrix.tii.tu-dresden.deAnsgar Hmm, isn't /usr/bin/generate_config a very generic name for a binary shipped in matrix-synapse? 15:46:25
@willem:canarymod.netWillem Sounds like something that should be in /usr/lib/matrix-synapse/ IMO 15:55:33
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshgood point16:31:07
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshplease file a bug πŸ™‚16:31:19
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshif you want it fixed for buster, make sure it’s release-critical if possible πŸ˜‰16:32:05

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