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20 Feb 2019
@libregeekingkid:matrix.orgrajudev joined the room.15:13:51
@grin:grin.hugringot tricked a few times in the last few years, one kept me playing like 6 hours (funkiness about libc6, rendering all dyna linked executable to fail, fun)15:14:03
@grin:grin.hugrin(while kicking my rescue disk which was not up to date)15:14:24
@gnugr:matrix.orggnugrandrewsh: if a reposter can push changes, OK15:14:41
@gnugr:matrix.orggnugrah s/reposter/reporter15:15:00
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshyou can submit merge requests15:15:05
@grin:grin.hugrinsid is like an adventure game from lucasarts: you cannot die but you may have to backtrack half the game15:15:05
@gnugr:matrix.orggnugrandrewsh: ok fair enough15:15:40
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewsh gnugr: what packages are you interested in? 15:15:40
@gnugr:matrix.orggnugrnot sure yet, i have to invastigate a bit15:16:16
@gnugr:matrix.orggnugrandrewsh: actually i need to know more about upstreamers, and how they behave15:19:47
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshupstreamers?15:20:33
@shirish:matrix.orgshirish
sid is like an adventure game from lucasarts: you cannot die but you may have to backtrack half the game
+1 to that, but that applies a bit to testing too.
17:40:20
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishwith the 10 day stage, that issue is somewhat lessened but again depends. Last few releases have been really good. 17:41:05
@shirish:matrix.orgshirish
upstreamers?
I think he means upstream i.e. matrix.org devs.
17:41:50
@willem:canarymod.netWillemWhat's the expected backports rollover time for matrix-synapse? Seeing Matthew's message in the home owners room, I probably need to hurry up…23:21:38
21 Feb 2019
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

andrewsh: I wanted to wait for the previous upload to migrate to testing

Should I file a Debian RC bug about this? The change from 0.34.x to 0.99.x may be largely disruptive.

00:43:09
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishit would probably would be. Usually people put the disruptive changes in debian.NEWS while the rest of changes are mentioned in changelog.gz (using upstream changelog and whatever format they follow) and any of the packaging changes are in changelog.debian.gz as usual. 05:43:49
@shirish:matrix.orgshirishthe easiest example of such disruptive behavior is apt itself. 05:44:26
@shirish:matrix.orgshirish /usr/share/doc/apt$ ls changelog.gz copyright examples NEWS.Debian.gz05:45:12
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewsh

andrewsh: I wanted to wait for the previous upload to migrate to testing

Should I file a Debian RC bug about this? The change from 0.34.x to 0.99.x may be largely disruptive.

No, please don't, why?!

06:05:43
@andrewsh:matrix.organdrewshWe want 0.99.x in Buster!06:06:04
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

I guessed it would've been more disruptive if it was already in stretch

06:06:35
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

Debatable how to interpret the soft freeze policy

06:06:52
* @lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

has a broken bug-script

06:07:05
* @lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

had an idea of using debconf(1) for reportbug(1)

06:08:56
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

takes too much time now, maybe later

06:09:00
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

This is the last thing to go to +ds.1 before release, and it's done.

From: Linda Lapinlampi <linda@lindalap.fi>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: matrix-archive-config: test

Package: matrix-archive-config
Version: 2015.12.09+ds.1
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,

this bugscript is working :)


-- Package-specific info:
-- APT configuration:
** apt-config dump (partial):
Dir "/";
Dir::Etc "etc/apt";
Dir::Etc::sourcelist "sources.list";
Dir::Etc::sourceparts "sources.list.d";
Dir::Etc::main "apt.conf";
Dir::Etc::netrc "auth.conf";
Dir::Etc::netrcparts "auth.conf.d";
Dir::Etc::parts "apt.conf.d";
Dir::Etc::preferences "preferences";
Dir::Etc::preferencesparts "preferences.d";
Dir::Etc::trusted "trusted.gpg";
Dir::Etc::trustedparts "trusted.gpg.d";

** APT policy:
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 100 https://riot.im/packages/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
     release o=riot.im,a=unstable,n=sid,c=main,b=amd64
     origin riot.im
 100 http://matrix.org/packages/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
     release o=matrix.org,n=sid,c=main,b=amd64
     origin matrix.org
 100 http://debian.drdteam.org stable/multiverse amd64 Packages
     release o=DRD Team,n=stable,l=DRD Team,c=multiverse,b=amd64
     origin debian.drdteam.org
 500 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian unstable/non-free amd64 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=amd64
     origin ftp.fi.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian unstable/contrib amd64 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=amd64
     origin ftp.fi.debian.org
 500 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main,b=amd64
     origin ftp.fi.debian.org
Pinned packages:

-- matrix-archive-config configuration:
** /etc/matrix-archive-keyring/matrix.list:
deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/matrix-archive-keyring.gpg] http://matrix.org/packages/debian/ sid main
deb-src [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/matrix-archive-keyring.gpg] http://matrix.org/packages/debian/ sid main
** /etc/matrix-archive-keyring/matrix.pref:
Package: *
Pin: origin matrix.org
Pin-Priority: 100


-- System Information:
Debian Release: buster/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.19.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages matrix-archive-config depends on:
ii  matrix-archive-keyring  2015.12.09+ds.1
ii  ucf                     3.0038+nmu1

Versions of packages matrix-archive-config recommends:
ii  apt          1.8.0~rc3
ii  lsb-release  10.2018112800

matrix-archive-config suggests no packages.

-- Configuration Files:
/etc/matrix-archive-keyring/matrix.list changed:
deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/matrix-archive-keyring.gpg] http://matrix.org/packages/debian/ sid main
deb-src [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/matrix-archive-keyring.gpg] http://matrix.org/packages/debian/ sid main


-- debconf information excluded
06:23:25
@lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

mentors.debian.net isn't even attempting to contact my SMTP server for registration.

13:35:07
* @lindalap:matrix.orgLinda

sighs

13:35:09

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