| 8 Jul 2024 |
 nikerabbit | I have https://nimiarkisto.fi/wiki/Toiminnot:Versio and https://sanat.csc.fi/wiki/Toiminnot:Versio. But it mostly just simple use of SMW, nothing too fancy. | 07:28:06 |
| 11 Jul 2024 |
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| @telegram_580809922:t2bot.io | Hi there! Is MediaWiki 1.43 (LTS) planned to be supported in the future 5.0.0 version? If so, is there a rough estimate for when 5.0.0 will be released?
I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find any info about it. | 05:25:46 |
 Bernhard Krabina | There is no schedule yet. We have to wait until 1.43 is released and then test what is breaking. | 05:43:46 |
| @telegram_580809922:t2bot.io | Thank you! But is it planned to be supported in 5.0.0 then? | 05:58:12 |
| Bernhard Krabina | I don't know. It is certainly planned an necessary to support 1.43. whether in a 4.x or 5.x release | 06:41:19 |
| @telegram_580809922:t2bot.io | Thank you very much for the info! | 06:42:20 |
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| Bernhard Krabina | Registration is now open for SMWCon 2024 in Vienna. Get your early-bird ticket: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024 | 16:43:38 |
| 15 Jul 2024 |
 justinl | Hi all. I just ran across a concern when building new MW 1.39.8 code to deploy to my servers. During the PHP composer run, I see a bunch of warnings. How concerned should I be about this?
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Class SMW\MediaWiki\Tests\Page\ConceptPageTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/tests/phpunit/MediaWiki/Page/ConceptPageTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\Tests\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/tests/phpunit). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\Integration\CombinedSanitizerTextStopwordTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Integration/CombinedSanitizerTextStopwordTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\Integration\CombinedNGramTokenizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Integration/CombinedNGramTokenizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\Integration\JaTokenizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Integration/JaTokenizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\SanitizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/SanitizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\CJKSimpleCharacterRegExTokenizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/Tokenizer/CJKSimpleCharacterRegExTokenizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\JaTinySegmenterTokenizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/Tokenizer/JaTinySegmenterTokenizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\NGramTokenizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/Tokenizer/NGramTokenizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
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Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\JaCompoundGroupTokenizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/Tokenizer/JaCompoundGroupTokenizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\PunctuationRegExTokenizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/Tokenizer/PunctuationRegExTokenizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\IcuWordBoundaryTokenizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/Tokenizer/IcuWordBoundaryTokenizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\NormalizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/NormalizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\StopwordAnalyzer\CdbStopwordAnalyzerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/StopwordAnalyzer/CdbStopwordAnalyzerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\StopwordAnalyzer\NullStopwordAnalyzerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/StopwordAnalyzer/NullStopwordAnalyzerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\StopwordAnalyzer\ArrayStopwordAnalyzerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/StopwordAnalyzer/ArrayStopwordAnalyzerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\SanitizerFactoryTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/SanitizerFactoryTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\LanguageDetector\TextCatLanguageDetectorTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/LanguageDetector/TextCatLanguageDetectorTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\LanguageDetector\NullLanguageDetectorTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/LanguageDetector/NullLanguageDetectorTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\CharacterExaminerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/CharacterExaminerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\Synonymizer\NullSynonymizerTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/Synonymizer/NullSynonymizerTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
Class Onoi\Tesa\Tests\TransliteratorTest located in ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src/Tesa/tests/phpunit/Unit/TransliteratorTest.php does not comply with psr-4 autoloading standard (rule: SMW\ => ./extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/src). Skipping.
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| 17 Jul 2024 |
| justinl | I've gone ahead and submitted a bug report to find out whether this is a valid concern. https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/issues/5668 | 13:46:37 |
| 22 Jul 2024 |
| Bernhard Krabina | I put hotel information on the SMWCon website: the recommendet hotel ist the IBIS St. Marx. Ticket registration is also open, so make sure you get your early bird tickets:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2024 | 10:31:18 |
| 2 Aug 2024 |
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| 10 Aug 2024 |
|  adam ~ @adinfinitum:mozilla.org changed their profile picture. | 10:37:06 |
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| 18 Aug 2024 |
 Alexander Mashin | Can anyone, by any chance, point to a place in SMW, where the value of the property Property description, or any multilingual text, may get truncated? | 05:15:31 |
| 28 Aug 2024 |
| justinl | Hi all. I just updated my wikis from MW 1.39.7 to 1.39.8 but in my original testing I'd overlooked that this also updated SMW from 4.1.3 to 4.2.0. Looking at the 4.2.0 release notes, I noticed the new Facetedsearch page, but it's giving an error:
[99f9abf0ee2505a86f58dd2f] 2024-08-28 13:32:41: Fatal exception of type "SMW\MediaWiki\Specials\FacetedSearch\Exception\DefaultProfileNotFoundException"
I'm going to start digging into this, but in the meantime, does anyone know why that would be happening?
| 13:34:24 |
 kghbln | You need to either run update.php or setupStore.php. I hope somewere in the release notes it says that you need to do this. | 13:35:54 |
| justinl | Crap, yeah it does. Kinda frustrating that such a "minor" update would require that. Could running that in this case potentially cause even brief user-facing errors/outages? | 13:37:33 |
| kghbln | It should probably have been a 5.0 release. | 13:39:31 |
| kghbln | If you disabled the upgrade key check you can run the scripts without users noticing anything. | 13:40:11 |
| justinl | Should I roll back to 1.39.7? This is really frustrating. | 13:40:13 |
| justinl | No, I don't have that disabled. | 13:40:29 |
| justinl | Also, if I leave it as is, with just that one page throwing that error, would anything else break? | 13:41:04 |
| kghbln | In reply to @justinl:matrix.org
No, I don't have that disabled. https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$smwgIgnoreUpgradeKeyCheck | 13:41:42 |
| kghbln | In reply to @justinl:matrix.org
Should I roll back to 1.39.7? This is really frustrating. This has nothing to do with MW. This is SMW. You could pin SMW to 4.1.3 | 13:42:39 |
| kghbln | In reply to @justinl:matrix.org
Also, if I leave it as is, with just that one page throwing that error, would anything else break? It could be that Special:Preferences goes bellies up in a sense that a user cannot longer save changes. | 13:43:23 |
| justinl | I would have if I'd realized this was going to be a thing. | 13:43:26 |
| justinl | Crap. I need to revert. | 13:43:37 |
