11 Jan 2025 |
3wc ~ they/them | numbers on "Grant an exception to the Social.coop "Federation abuse policy" for threads.net": there are 69 combined disagree/block votes, which means that in order to grant an exception there would need to be 9×69=621 "agree" votes – and there are only 436 people on loomio total | 18:54:09 |
3wc ~ they/them | obviously we should let the proposal run for the full 6 days, but the outcome is decided | 18:54:42 |
3wc ~ they/them |
Proposals with Block require at least 9 times more Agree votes than Disagree and Block votes in order to pass.
https://wiki.social.coop/wiki/Bylaws
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3wc ~ they/them | * obviously we should let the proposal run for the full 6 days, but the outcome seems decided | 19:00:20 |
13 Jan 2025 |
| @kirksmith:beeper.com joined the room. | 23:17:18 |
14 Jan 2025 |
dnlbrnds | Graphic designers present on social.coop? We need to talk about our logo. | 12:49:50 |
Evan Boehs | What’s wrong with it | 12:51:09 |
Evan Boehs | I quite like it. It’s not a good logo by graphic design standards but it’s very homey feeling which is what i like about social coop | 12:55:35 |
dphiffer | But what if we had a good logo that was also homey, as part of the design requirements? | 13:10:25 |
flancian 🍄 | maybe someone could start a thread on Loomio calling for community contributions? | 13:19:34 |
flancian 🍄 | Download socialcoop.png | 13:20:04 |
flancian 🍄 | (this is a non-serious proposal but the gist of it is that a crowdsourced/participatory process could be cool) | 14:54:48 |
| Blain Smith joined the room. | 15:27:08 |
Blain Smith | Hey folks. Has anyone heard anything about what social.coop is doing about recent Meta/Threads decisions? My personal account instance released what they are going to do, but I was curious if this instance had any thoughts about it? https://hub.fosstodon.org/our-position-on-threads | 15:29:40 |
Blain Smith | I just scrolled up and saw some things in the wiki. Ignore my question. | 15:31:00 |
flancian 🍄 | In reply to @blainsmith:matrix.org I just scrolled up and saw some things in the wiki. Ignore my question. ahoy! there's https://www.loomio.com/d/u1OkUA6M/clarity-on-stance-with-regards-to-threads/30 running w.r.t. to this; thanks for the reminder that I should add it to the wiki, I will now do that. | 15:32:40 |
Blain Smith | Fantastic thanks and I appreciate all the efforts going into this! | 15:34:11 |
flancian 🍄 | (done) -- TLDR: we are running votes (two actually, for technical reasons) to move from limit to suspend. | 15:36:10 |
Blain Smith | That makes sense. I am debating a migration currently from Fosstodon to social.coop since we already run our tech co-ops main account here anyway. I was just sharing the details with my other members so they can make their own informed decision. | 15:37:35 |
dphiffer | It's cool that the explanation included "how to actually do the personal domain block" with screenshots | 15:43:00 |
dphiffer | I think there's a lot of thoughtful discussion on that Loomio link above, I voted to defederate but I appreciated reading through the votes of people who disagreed and want to keep our current domain "limit" setting | 15:44:11 |
flancian 🍄 | In reply to @flancian:matrix.org 20% is also significant enough that, if it holds, we should probably discuss as a community how exactly we go through enacting the suspend to make sure people don't lose significant data (as per the message above; but that is only one particular implementation plan). I've now called this out to the CWG and TWG so we can plan accordingly. the CWG is meeting on the 23rd and this is a topic of discussion (how to defederate if the vote holds). so people should not expect a suspend action before then, maybe before EOM. if anybody has any issues with this, please raise. | 15:48:45 |
3wc ~ they/them | flancian 🍄 85% of people who voted (in the second poll) have actively disagreed with making an exception to the policy based on scale. But you're pushing for an exception to the policy based on scale? | 18:55:20 |
3wc ~ they/them | if people want "how many 'follow' relationships exist" to be a factor in the implementation of the Federation abuse policy then let's get a proposal for it to be added? | 18:57:13 |
3wc ~ they/them | * if people want "how many 'follow' relationships exist between social.coop and the instance?" to be a factor in the implementation of the Federation abuse policy then let's get a proposal for it to be added? | 18:57:24 |
Sieva | I'm not suggesting anything, but another coop on the fedi might be considering running a Pixelfed instance in addition to Mastodon
https://cosocial.ca/@pl/113809608865407095 | 19:27:52 |
flancian 🍄 | This sounds lovely! We have "other services" in the TWG roadmap | 20:12:39 |
flancian 🍄 | We'll discuss in the next meeting! | 20:12:55 |
flancian 🍄 | In reply to @3wc:autonomic.zone flancian 🍄 85% of people who voted (in the second poll) have actively disagreed with making an exception to the policy based on scale. But you're pushing for an exception to the policy based on scale? We're all in this together. We're figuring out things as we go along. | 20:13:32 |
flancian 🍄 | "Pushing" is forceful language that does not represent what I feel. | 20:13:56 |