Riot accessibility

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Discussions on how to improve the accessibility of Riot (Web, Android, iOS)12 Servers

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25 Mar 2020
16:53:03@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanNo worries, my hopes aren't up. :) More wishful thinking than anything.
16:53:52@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy) Marco Zehe: No promises but if you send me some of the issues I may investigate them in my down time
17:07:10@marcozehe:matrix.orgMarco Zehe Michael (t3chguy): The issue I was commenting on was this: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/4541
17:07:41@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)I will see how happy they are with external contributions
20:13:54@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanThink I looked into that a while back, but getting the stack up and running was confusing. There's an XMPP server, some sort of bridge...there wasn't really a good overview of how all the pieces fit together, or of how to install enough of an environment to meaningfully hack on the HTML interface. Hope that's changed.
20:35:57@pvagner:pvagner.tkPeter VágnerI'm looking into that for ages too. I wish to run all that on arch linux but all the tutorials suggest docker containers and similar. I need to look into it again and try to understand it better.
27 Mar 2020
21:58:29@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy) nolan: looks like they made developing jitsi-meet much easier, just clone, yarn and then make dev
21:58:52@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)Got my first jitsi-meet PR in review currently, it doesn't resolve menus but does make all the bottom-ribbon buttons and toggles accessible: https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/pull/5432
21:59:55@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanNice to read on both counts. Hopefully their Firefox issues also get addressed.
22:00:59@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanDidn't realize until recently that Firefox wasn't supported--guess the lack of support isn't communicated accessibly. :P Or at least, there's a browser support warning, but it warns about no camera access, not lack of support.
1 Apr 2020
14:49:20@pvagner:pvagner.tkPeter Vágner

Michael (t3chguy): awesome stuff regarding your jitsi meet pull request. I'm already running on mine.

14:49:35@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)Awesome to hear, I totally forgot about that PR :')
15:22:16@pvagner:pvagner.tkPeter VágnerI'm not sure if that might work and if you would be willing to try to work on the menus as well but I think it might be enough to expose menu items as buttons. There are already some toggle buttons in their menus. You know popup menu aria pattern is not as easy to implement as toolbar buttons.
15:23:31@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)yeah it is not, I think I'll make them all reachable first
15:23:37@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)then implement proper patterns at some other point
15:23:48@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)due to the app being react-native compatible its structured in a very alien way to me
15:23:54@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)so would rather do it in small chunks
15:24:16@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)last I checked, the menu was openable using my PR but half the buttons therein were not reachable, didn't investigate why yet
15:24:21@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)will do it after my PR is reviewed
15:30:13@pvagner:pvagner.tkPeter VágnerOk, no rush, I mainly wanted to say, it's working great for me.
3 Apr 2020
14:04:10@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy) Peter Vágner: its been merged :D
14:04:20@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)I will probably look at doing another PR there this weekend
4 Apr 2020
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7 Apr 2020
18:27:45@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanDoes desktop Riot bump the Electron version in minor version updates? Or does Electron bump in 1.6?
18:31:29@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)It can do, but electron 8 is coming in 1.6
18:32:09@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanCool, any idea when that will be? Particularly interested since 8 likely improves Linux accessibility.
18:32:57@x:riot.ovhMichael (t3chguy)Should be in next few weeks, it's the big e2ee by default update
18:33:07@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanCool, sounds good.
10 Apr 2020
13:03:04@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanNot really a Riot question, but there are smart folks here... How do you implement ARIA live regions for a chat area where the chat messages consist of items with several elements (I.e. Riot, and just about any modern app?) Trying to improve Jitsi accessibility and thought I'd make the chat area a live region, but updates only speak one element, usually the message time.
13:04:56@nolan:thewordnerd.infonolanI assume there's some way to indicate what the label for a chat message should be that works for ARIA regions but doesn't interfere with how the element is reviewed by screen readers, but maybe not. Tried researching this a while back, but either there wasn't anything published or I didn't guess the right keywords.

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