| 2 Aug 2021 |
 mh4553 | But other rooms don't work | 10:26:42 |
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 erdbeerita | In reply to @mh4553:matrix.org
But other rooms don't work which other rooms are you searching for? There should be the modality room (which works), the Intro to Syntax room (the same link as last week), and then the phonology classes have a different room this week. I will search for the link ... | 10:38:12 |
| erdbeerita | Redacted or Malformed Event | 10:38:56 |
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| mh4553 | Actually none of them worked, I had to use VPN to join, I don't know why | 10:43:27 |
| erdbeerita | In reply to @mh4553:matrix.org
Actually none of them worked, I had to use VPN to join, I don't know why ok, then it might be a problem with your connection. I am glad you could solve it. | 10:55:11 |
| mh4553 | In reply to @erdbeerita:matrix.org
ok, then it might be a problem with your connection. I am glad you could solve it. Thanks so much | 10:57:18 |
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| 3 Aug 2021 |
| Satoru Ozaki (he/him) | I'm trying to understand why the naive characterization of the accessibility relation doesn't work for the driveway example we talked about in class today. The naive characterization basically says w' is accessible from w iff the same events happen in w and w' up to now and w' conforms with what the law in w demands. Given the context of the driveway example, this is bad because according to this characterization, no worlds are accessible for quantification from a world where someone has broken some law at some point in time. Is this correct? | 12:57:53 |
 vhohaus | Yes, that's correct. (And in this case, we already know that John broke the law by blocking a driveway.) | 13:00:37 |
| vhohaus | * Yes, that's correct. (And in this case, we already know that John broke the law by blocking a driveway, so the actual world is already not a world that conforms with the law.) | 13:05:34 |
| Satoru Ozaki (he/him) | Thank you! This makes a lot of sense now. | 13:06:27 |
| Satoru Ozaki (he/him) | Also, is there an example of an epistemic modal that would have an non-trivial ordering source? If I remember correctly the other examples we looked at in class today all have defunct ordering sources. | 13:08:24 |
| vhohaus | Oh, good question. Let me think! | 13:11:40 |
| vhohaus | Kratzer (1991: p. 650) suggests that German WIRD and DÜRFTE lexically require an epistemic modal base with a belief-based and stereotypical ordering source. An example from the literature is JOHN SHOULD HAVE REACHED ATHENS BY NOW, where we not only consider the propositions we know but also assume that John's trip proceeded as normal (so, nothing abnormal occurred). | 13:25:11 |
| vhohaus | You may also find the discussion on this handout of Seth Cable's useful, in particular pages 19-20: http://people.umass.edu/scable/LING620-SP18/Handouts/11.Modals3.pdf | 13:26:08 |
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| vhohaus | (I agree.) | 13:27:09 |
| Satoru Ozaki (he/him) | Thank you! I will check out the handout as well. | 14:03:40 |
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| vhohaus | Here is a GoogleDocs for the data you contributed today, feel free to keep adding:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y7LwiRdT9Huc2k82SsJvfpIeuVaoXX4K179n_7l89Yo/edit?usp=sharing | 11:30:52 |
| vhohaus | You can download all course materials for this class from here:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/539h1vjmi49eqpkmw514y/Gradability-and-Modality.paper?dl=0&rlkey=recnxx1cpdt44e5uxsx6mvjkg
This is the link to the notes from today's lecture:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xfza7u1t2h33sod/notes-20210804.pdf?dl=0 | 11:45:29 |
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