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Our open source OS can function completely on-premises and on-device. Connect to the internet only if and as much as you want to. This newest release is tailored to the Mycroft Mark II hardware, and supports their numerous existing community-built skills. Download it here: https://2222.us/app/files/neon_images/pi/mycroft_mark_2/recommended_mark_2.img.xz Imaging Support: https://neon.ai/UpgradeGuideV2.0 Feature comparison: https://neon.ai/ComparingNeon-OVos-Mycroft Check out our Documentation: https://neongeckocom.github.io/neon-docs/ Note: Trolling will not be tolerated. Polite conversation only. 18 Servers

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23 Feb 2024
@mikejgray:matrix.orgMikeI'm sure in RaspOVOS you wouldn't need to change anything16:37:22
@builderjer:matrix.orgbuilderjerI'm actually not sure. RaspOVOS uses i2csound to detect the mk2, but it doesn't disable other things such as usb. I've never tries plugging in a usb mic to the mk216:39:01
@burnsfisher:matrix.orgburnsfisherI'll try it :-)16:40:49
@mikejgray:matrix.orgMikeAFAIK it should be available as a device. I'm just not 100% sure what configs would need to be changed on the Mark 2 to make sure it's using it16:41:19
@burnsfisher:matrix.orgburnsfisher Indeed, it does not "just work" without something changing. Just wanted to try it so builderjer can say it has been tried :-) 16:47:31
@neon-daniel:matrix.orgDaniel McKnight
In reply to @mikejgray:matrix.org
Regarding the Playstation Eye, yes, but I'm not super clear on the details...you'd have to edit the pulseaudio settings to default to that mic and then probably some Neon config too. Daniel McKnight can probably elaborate on the specifics to override it

I don't have one to test with, but in general I've found USB audio devices mostly just work (assuming they have drivers in the Linux kernel which most do in my experience).

Neon (and I believe RaspOVOS abd OVOS Buildroot) will output to all connected sinks (speakers) and the default behavior from Pulse usually (always?) takes a conneted USB mic as the default. j1nxnl probably knows better how the mic selection works with Pulse and udev rules

17:36:40
@neon-daniel:matrix.orgDaniel McKnight
In reply to @burnsfisher:matrix.org
Note sure if this is the same symptom, but I have been changing neon.yaml a lot (other threads, other forums) and now if I "sudo reboot" it typically stops with a blank screen. If I power cycle then there is a blank screen in the middle of booting but it eventually does boot ok.

There are a few things in the GUI I don't fully understand, but this could just be the GUI app taking a while to start it's initial animation. The startup process looks like:

  • kernel load prints some things (usually 1-2s of text)
  • splashscreen service puts up the static "Neon AI" with orange logo
  • gui service kills the splashscreen and starts the animation with the big logo in the middle and spinning circles (this one seems to take time occasionally)
  • Neon service launches and connects to gui, this shows the same splashscreen image and the GUI adds the spinner to the top right corner during startup
17:59:21
@j1nxnl:matrix.orgj1nxnl
In reply to @neon-daniel:matrix.org

I don't have one to test with, but in general I've found USB audio devices mostly just work (assuming they have drivers in the Linux kernel which most do in my experience).

Neon (and I believe RaspOVOS abd OVOS Buildroot) will output to all connected sinks (speakers) and the default behavior from Pulse usually (always?) takes a conneted USB mic as the default. j1nxnl probably knows better how the mic selection works with Pulse and udev rules

Which hardware/device is this question related to?
18:03:20
@neon-daniel:matrix.orgDaniel McKnightUsing a Playstation eye with a mark2; I'm not sure how pulse will pick which mic to use in this case18:04:45
@j1nxnl:matrix.orgj1nxnl

Ah ok. Hats are preffered over usb. Will link a changed file a bit later.

Shortcut; install ncpamixer (cli pulseaudio control) and use that to make the eye the default mic

18:06:25
@j1nxnl:matrix.orgj1nxnlhttps://github.com/fulhax/ncpamixer19:27:14
@j1nxnl:matrix.orgj1nxnl(For the shortcut. Will not firing up the laptop, so the config file change will have to wait till tomorrrow)19:28:05
@j1nxnl:matrix.orgj1nxnl Mouse and keyboard are supported. "D" key will make it the default 19:28:54
@burnsfisher:matrix.orgburnsfisherThanks!20:57:51
24 Feb 2024
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@fromport:matrix.orgfromportAlpha 19 doesn't dim the display for me , didn't respond to ww. Had to push button on top to make it listen11:13:20
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@fromport:matrix.orgfromportfollowup: spouse mentioned the "bright light" in the living room at night. So I remotely switched it off with my smart plug. This morning I restarted it and it did dim the display. And it responds to WW again as usual. After the update I always perform a power cycle. So I don't know what happened, but have been a glitch of some kind.17:59:17
@fromport:matrix.orgfromport * followup: spouse mentioned the "bright light" in the living room at night. So I remotely switched it off with my smart plug app. This morning I restarted it and it did dim the display. And it responds to WW again as usual. After the update I always perform a power cycle. So I don't know what happened, but have been a glitch of some kind. 17:59:37
@fromport:matrix.orgfromport * followup: spouse mentioned the "bright light" in the living room at night. So I remotely switched it off with my smart plug app. This morning I restarted it and it did dim the display. And it responds to WW again as usual. After the update I always perform a power cycle. So I don't know what happened, but must have been a glitch of some kind. 18:09:31
25 Feb 2024
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21:23:39
@fromport:matrix.orgfromportQ: why would my HomeAssistant discover it as apple TV ? 21:23:42
@fromport:matrix.orgfromport * Q: why would my HomeAssistant discover it as apple TV ? FYI: no apple devices in my home.21:38:00
@mikejgray:matrix.orgMike
In reply to @fromport:matrix.org
Q: why would my HomeAssistant discover it as apple TV ? FYI: no apple devices in my home.
Because it’s an AirPlay device
21:38:58
@mikejgray:matrix.orgMike HA discovers it as video capable but the AirPlay binary being used doesn’t enable video, just audio 21:39:28
@fromport:matrix.orgfromportCan you explain why airplay standard is installed on an mk2 ? or is this is add on of some kind ?22:06:40
@fromport:matrix.orgfromport * Can you explain why airplay is installed on my mk2 ? is this an add on of some kind ? 22:07:11
26 Feb 2024
@mikejgray:matrix.orgMikeIt’s part of the audio receiver functionality. You can turn it off: “hey Mycroft, disable AirPlay”03:25:14

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