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18 Sep 2019
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallard I waited to 8:21pm, did soe on a survey monkey, rest on papers due, dust, microwaving dirt & hovercraft lander geometry. 10:21:42
19 Sep 2019
@drbriefs:matrix.orgseanUdit, Mondays are a bit inconvenient for me - will try and show when the opportunity strikes. Thanks again for picking up my/Suzi's slack~07:21:27
24 Sep 2019
@udit.kumar.sahoo:matrix.orgudit.kumar.sahoo Hi all... It's me and Tom waiting... 03:07:52
@pablo_arellano:matrix.orgpablo_arellanoOh. I was in traffic. Still intereted but not to much time available 😣05:34:11
5 Oct 2019
@blaj:matrix.orgblaj joined the room.09:56:45
@blaj:matrix.orgblajHi all, any hero that would be willing to jump on a call with me in about two weeks and help me understand better how you manage to work together? :) Much appreciated!10:01:25
8 Oct 2019
@udit.kumar.sahoo:matrix.orgudit.kumar.sahoo Hi all... I'm waiting 03:09:22
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallard

I was in full deadline panic mode, papers & presentations aren't due till the 14th !!!

Race is still on, my stuff not up to par yet, big relief, was uploading what I had, I have to decline being there, can't afford it.

The papers are hard on 2 phones & data, latency like the old days on build machines, net neutrality died.
Ymmv.

20:04:08
9 Oct 2019
@drbriefs:matrix.orgseanI'll likely be MIA at least for the next 2 weeks; preparing an abstract for AIAA/IEEE and possibly a talk at PyData in December07:17:56
17 Oct 2019
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallardI cancelled being at the IAF Congress, no cash, was supposed to present the paper on dust ... got my papers in on time (y)23:56:32
18 Oct 2019
@cagonzalez8:matrix.orgCarlos Gonzalez-Rivera DAMN! tmallard that's a bummmer 01:54:26
@cagonzalez8:matrix.orgCarlos Gonzalez-Rivera@room I'll be at the IAF Congress from 22nd-24th. I'll be meeting with our counterparts to determine my best feasible options for my PhD research. Anything you guys need from me while Im in D.C.?01:58:49
20 Oct 2019
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallard

Carlos Gonzalez-Rivera: I have this basic relationship going:

Fg = mass1•mass2/d²
Fq = charge1•charge2/d

With d equal this says charge is exponentially stronger than gravity,

And that implies how UFOs can accelerate straight up no problem.
Ymmv.

02:29:28
@jbperry:matrix.orgjbperryIf you’re thinking of using the electric field between the ground and the upper atmosphere for propulsion, it won’t work. Any object in the atmosphere with sufficiently large charge would create a strong electric field, and would discharge rapidly via corona discharge. If you separate the charged object from the air with a insulated gap, opposite charge will collect on the outside, and you will have just built a capacitor with zero net charge.20:55:52
@jbperry:matrix.orgjbperry Also, Coulomb's law is kqq/d^2 21:00:42
@jbperry:matrix.orgjbperryIt is possible to charge up isolated objects to high voltages in space using electron guns. There is a propulsion concept called an “electric sail” which uses a set of positively charged wires to generate thrust by repelling the solar wind protons.21:06:47
21 Oct 2019
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallardreflective reluctance-01.png
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02:40:29
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallard

jbperry ... you're on your own on you assumptions.

Reflective reluctance provides a counterforce to charged plasmas, prove otherwise in equations, your verbage is not correct.

02:42:25
@drbriefs:matrix.orgsean
In reply to @jbperry:matrix.org
Also, Coulomb's law is kqq/d^2
^this
03:05:33
@drbriefs:matrix.orgsean
In reply to @cagonzalez8:matrix.org
@room I'll be at the IAF Congress from 22nd-24th. I'll be meeting with our counterparts to determine my best feasible options for my PhD research. Anything you guys need from me while Im in D.C.?
Carlos Gonzalez-Rivera: I can't think of anything specific at the moment, but will let you know if something comes to mind. Enjoy the conference!
03:08:29
@drbriefs:matrix.orgsean
In reply to @tmallard:matrix.org

jbperry ... you're on your own on you assumptions.

Reflective reluctance provides a counterforce to charged plasmas, prove otherwise in equations, your verbage is not correct.

Coulomb's law and electrodynamics of capacitors are well understood, so I'm not sure what exactly is being refuted here.
03:28:00
@drbriefs:matrix.orgseanAlso, as a general rule of thumb, let's please try and keep all discussions civil, respectful, and (when possible) free of logical fallacies; the burden of proof is on the one making a bold claim, not on the established theory. Let's all do our best to abide by the rigors of the scientific method03:29:40
@jbperry:matrix.orgjbperryI can’t make much sense of those equations without context, but reluctance is a property in inductive circuits. I do not see how it is relevant to non-neutral plasmas which are dominated by electric forces and generally do not create large net currents. This is from the Wikipedia page on reluctance20:54:56
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20:55:17
22 Oct 2019
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallard

Nice news, on Anton's channel, 8:23;

Watch "Wow, 9 Out of 10 Crops Flourish in Lunar and Martian Soil!" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/1aJl1r1E0b4

01:00:10
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallard

jbperry RE: Reluctance as a repulsive force.

There are teo parts to this;
1st:
Distance, d = 1-meter, craft wt 1000kg, dia. = 6.1m/20ft;

Calculate the reluctance counterforce required to hover, the power & frequencies to create the reluctance in the astral body, Earth, Moon, asteroid ... a simple extension of microwaving lunar dirt.

There are properties in dirt of note, permeability, reactance, electret and resistance relative to doing this.

2nd:
Explain with having a repulsive plasma hovering the craft, how is it that gravity can attract it other than from the side, at an angle, as a direct vector from the CE of Earth is 'shaded' by the plasma, which is a radiant source to the reluctance?

Given it shades, somewhere near hovering the craft zips up, the energy barrier freeing the occupants from most G's, why they wouldn't turn to jello.

Ymmv.

01:14:44
@cagonzalez8:matrix.orgCarlos Gonzalez-Rivera sean: Good to go 09:53:31
23 Oct 2019
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallardCarlos Gonzalez-Rivera: Give us a report from IAF, ok?00:54:54
29 Oct 2019
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallardI was into a project and missed last night, 8:36 when I saw the clock ... duh.17:07:11
5 Nov 2019
@tmallard:matrix.orgtmallardOn zoom, nobody else yet04:05:23

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