| 18 Feb 2019 |
 tulir | matrix.org is the "main" directory | 14:23:03 |
| tulir | In reply to @nw:disroot.org
Can I only ever search my own HS's directory?? you can type any server in the box | 14:23:13 |
 Nad | ah sorry just saw this message:
> Since the redesign I am unable to search the main directory that contains rooms not available on my homeserver. Even though the default search scope is [matrix], I only see rooms from my own homeserver
just for posterity, we didn't change the room dir logic at all, only how you access it, so it's likely this bug predates the redesign | 14:23:25 |
 Nils | What if I don't know which server a room is on? Let's say I want to see all rooms about cryptpad in the network? | 14:24:34 |
| tulir | In reply to @nw:disroot.org
So how do I find the Cryptpad room if it's not hosted on my HS? cryptpad is at #cryptpad:matrix.xwiki.com | 14:24:05 |
| Nils | I'm pretty sure I used to find that room in the directory from the same HS I am on now | 14:24:39 |
| tulir | a global directory doesn't exist | 14:24:59 |
| tulir | matrix.org has most rooms though | 14:25:06 |
| Nils | In reply to @tulir:maunium.net
cryptpad is at #cryptpad:matrix.xwiki.com Thanks -- I'm wondering how I would find this if I don't know the room address | 14:25:19 |
| Nils | I thought the point of having the room directory is that I can search all rooms on the network | 14:25:32 |
| tulir | you can type matrix.org in the server box to view matrix.org's directory. Then you should be able to search it | 14:25:36 |
| tulir | In reply to @nw:disroot.org
I thought the point of having the room directory is that I can search all rooms on the network there isn't even really a "the network", federation is per room for the most part | 14:26:04 |
| tulir | hopefully they'll figure out something to fix that, but for now the centralized directory at matrix.org has most rooms and you can usually find room aliases on project websites and such | 14:27:05 |
| Nils | In reply to @tulir:maunium.net
you can type matrix.org in the server box to view matrix.org's directory. Then you should be able to search it ah got it. That's super unclear. And it always flips back to [matrix.org] but I saw that's a known issue | 14:27:06 |
| tulir | In reply to @nw:disroot.org
ah got it. That's super unclear. And it always flips back to [matrix.org] but I saw that's a known issue oh yeah that's another bug | 14:27:30 |
| Nils | I think it's easy to see why everyone piles up on matrix.org as long as using another HS comes with such issues of access | 14:28:07 |
| Nils | I'd say 99% of people will not be able to figure out how this works, and think the network is much smaller than it is, and miss rooms because they cannot search | 14:28:42 |
| tulir | yeah it should probably at least get rid of [m] Matrix until there's a global directory | 14:30:54 |
| Nils | ...and I'm getting errors when trying to join #cryptpad:matrix.xwiki.com. Well well. Off to bed. | 14:34:18 |
| Nils | I moved from matrix.org to disroot.org to help strengthen federation, but it feels like I'm often punished for not being on the main server where everyone is. Not good. | 14:35:21 |
| Nils | thanks for the help! | 14:36:39 |
 pavi | Nils: Disroot is not maintained anymore 😞 | 14:36:50 |
| Nils | Muppeth still seems to maintain it. | 14:38:13 |
| Nils | At least he's quite responsive about performance issues. But I'll be happy to move to my own server once Modular is starting to offer personal instances | 14:38:47 |
| Nils | Gotta go. Cheers | 14:44:22 |
| Nad | honestly there's just so many problems with riot and matrix that i'm pretty sure it's all just due to the people actually working on it having bad ideas and decisions for posterity I need to call this out so the quality of conversation doesn't degrade into more of this— please don't make uncivil comments like this, they're shallow, unsubstantive and unconstructive.
largely speaking most of the feedback has been the opposite of those things, so thank you to everyone else. | 14:54:25 |
|  Brendan Abolivier joined the room. | 15:59:18 |
|  high-q left the room. | 16:09:09 |
 Valodim | I find that the "+" circles to add rooms regularly trigger a "new message" reflex for me when I open Riot using the dark theme, because they look similar to the "new message" bubbles | 21:24:10 |
| Valodim | I also found myself confused a few times when all rooms in a list section had new messages, whether they all did or all didn't have new messages | 21:25:33 |
