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4 Mar 2024
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostafter that try 'sudo pacman -Syyu' again and can you post a screenshot in here of it08:36:32
@thorsten:alge.xyzThorsten AlgeOk. I rebootet to be sure but no effect.08:37:39
@thorsten:alge.xyzThorsten Algepacman -Scc ran, no problems08:37:57
@thorsten:alge.xyzThorsten Algethe other command too08:38:10
@thorsten:alge.xyzThorsten Algesudo pacman -Syyu still give the same problem.08:38:23
@daphilly:matrix.orgPhilip Mueller sudo pacman -Syu pacman-contrib and it should work 08:39:42
@daphilly:matrix.orgPhilip Muelleryou may want to read the troubleshoot section on my announcements.08:39:59
@manosb:matrix.orgManos Does anyone knows when manjaro will launch kde 6? 08:40:55
@daphilly:matrix.orgPhilip Mueller
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Does anyone knows when manjaro will launch kde 6?
what is KDE6? Plasma 6 might come when it comes. Arch currently has it in their testing repos
08:41:54
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08:42:34
@daphilly:matrix.orgPhilip Mueller Thorsten Alge: the forum is your friend ^^ 08:42:52
@thorsten:alge.xyzThorsten Alge
In reply to @daphilly:matrix.org
sudo pacman -Syu pacman-contrib and it should work
It seems to work. At lest it started downloading the packages. I'll read it again, thanks. Will updating manjaro alway be such a hassle?
08:44:14
@thorsten:alge.xyzThorsten Alge
In reply to @daphilly:matrix.org
Thorsten Alge: the forum is your friend ^^
I tried that but my question was closed. I fixed the other problem by deactivating energy saving for now.
08:45:06
@daphilly:matrix.orgPhilip MuellerNormally it is not. Some packagers decided to split out the part to a separate package and there are some dependency cycles it seemed.08:45:19
@lordtermor:matrix.orgArtem Grinev
In reply to @thorsten:alge.xyz
It seems to work. At lest it started downloading the packages. I'll read it again, thanks. Will updating manjaro alway be such a hassle?
It takes some effort usually to maintain a rolling release distro
08:45:55
@thorsten:alge.xyzThorsten Alge
In reply to @lordtermor:matrix.org
It takes some effort usually to maintain a rolling release distro
I guess so. I'm usually willing to put in more effort with other OSes like FreeBSD oder Debianoids but I chose Manjaro because it promises ' This user-friendly OS is an excellent choice for those who seek a fresh computing experience, as it can be seamlessly installed on a diverse array of devices.' so I didn't expect to make it so difficult to just have a stable desktop os. Debianoids sometimes run in similar trouble too but most of them I don't expect a Desktop my mother can use. Guess I should have researched it more before trying it.
08:50:55
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostthere aint nothin perfect out there in the world08:52:47
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostanyone have the date of the last time windows updates broke someones system08:53:24
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostim guessing it wasnt that long ago08:53:31
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostMac probably has a better track record since they control the entire environment hardware to OS, but still im guess their updates have broke things before08:54:12
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostdebian is premised entirely on keeping very old packages around for very long periods of time in the hopes of maximum stability08:55:01
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostso you really cant compare side by side with a rolling dsitro08:55:14
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghost * so you really cant compare side by side with a rolling distro08:55:24
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostive never used any BSD so i dont know, but im guessing they arent 'rolling' (any of them?)08:56:03
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghostits trade offs everywhere you have to choose, in general I do think manjaro is one of the best if not the best for new users to linux or just low tech people in general08:56:40
@thorsten:alge.xyzThorsten Alge
In reply to @zero-ghost:matrix.org
there aint nothin perfect out there in the world
Sorry when I offended you. I did not expect perfect but having to fiddle around with the package manager every other week is a bit much for 'user-friendly'. I understand that rolling releases are difficult to maintain but from the promise on the website I would expect it as user-friendly my mother could use it but that promise is not met when you have to fix the package mangement that often. And yes, other OSes break sometimes - nothing is perfect - but not that regularly and not with an selfadvertisement like that.
09:06:24
@daphilly:matrix.orgPhilip Muellerwe are working on a version which doesn't involve package management. those updates will be based on images and should provide no dependency-hell09:21:23
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghost
In reply to @thorsten:alge.xyz
Sorry when I offended you. I did not expect perfect but having to fiddle around with the package manager every other week is a bit much for 'user-friendly'. I understand that rolling releases are difficult to maintain but from the promise on the website I would expect it as user-friendly my mother could use it but that promise is not met when you have to fix the package mangement that often. And yes, other OSes break sometimes - nothing is perfect - but not that regularly and not with an selfadvertisement like that.
not offended just stating the fact, every OS put there gives someone problems, and they all will continue to until somehow software becomes flawless
09:44:49
@zero-ghost:matrix.orgZero-ghost
In reply to @thorsten:alge.xyz
Sorry when I offended you. I did not expect perfect but having to fiddle around with the package manager every other week is a bit much for 'user-friendly'. I understand that rolling releases are difficult to maintain but from the promise on the website I would expect it as user-friendly my mother could use it but that promise is not met when you have to fix the package mangement that often. And yes, other OSes break sometimes - nothing is perfect - but not that regularly and not with an selfadvertisement like that.
* not offended just stating the fact, every OS out there gives someone problems, and they all will continue to until somehow software becomes flawless
09:44:58
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