| 11 Oct 2024 |
 Dennis ten Hoove | 1.Ubuntu
2. Linux Mint
3. Arch Linux
4. Manjaro | 07:25:26 |
| Dennis ten Hoove | *
- Ubuntu
- Linux Mint
- Arch Linux
- Manjaro
| 07:25:32 |
 Snorri Sturluson | hmm, ok | 07:25:41 |
 Philip Mueller | There are no figures as Canonical keeps them for themselves but you can see graphs. Snaps are not so popular but showcase some usage ... | 07:26:25 |
| Philip Mueller | 
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| Philip Mueller | 
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| Snorri Sturluson | hmm, probably that is the absolute usercount, no wonder China and India are big, as they have a billion humans .... | 07:28:18 |
| Dennis ten Hoove | China is very much Windows land, there is not much Linux usage. | 07:28:52 |
| Philip Mueller | 
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| Philip Mueller | Yes, China uses more Windows. You can see that on the Steam stats after the Monkey game. | 07:29:30 |
| Snorri Sturluson | I think 0,5% of a billion is enough to make it more blue than Spain or so | 07:29:45 |
| Philip Mueller | but there is a push from the government to clone all popular Linux distros. They even have their own institution and push Risc-V very hard. | 07:30:13 |
| Snorri Sturluson | red flag linux 😉 - never again heard what came out of it | 07:30:45 |
| Dennis ten Hoove | I have a Phytium machine laying around there, some 100% made-in-china ARM CPU.
Sadly the machine has issues I have not been able to do much with it.
A very interesting machine however. | 07:31:21 |
| Dennis ten Hoove | * I have a Phytium machine laying around there, some 100% made-in-china ARM CPU.
Sadly the machine has issues, I have not been able to do much with it.
A very interesting machine however. | 07:31:58 |
| Philip Mueller | https://technode.com/2022/04/11/china-opens-new-research-institute-to-develop-risc-v-processor-project/ | 07:32:04 |
| Philip Mueller | Felix has a clone of Arch for it: https://archriscv.felixc.at/ | 07:38:07 |
| Philip Mueller | I have a copy of that for Manjaro but have to check if I can sync again from Arch: https://repo-riscv.manjaro.org/ | 07:48:45 |
| Philip Mueller | 13768 pkgs to sync ... | 08:01:06 |
 小月 | Manjaro gets a bad rap... mostly from the forums, which are seen as integral to the distro. Admin's cannot into a reliable certificate update script and each year for a few days the forums go down. Also DDOSing the AUR was not a good look, this was caused by pamac and not properly testing/poor quality control. There is still a site along the lines of Manjarno, but as of my last check they'd broadly come around to Manjaro in a more positive light. Manjaro masquerading as 'rolling release' when it's a point release that release every two weeks or so, also doesn't help reputation matters. Arch Linux is a true rolling release, Manjaro holds things back until it has reached a point in time and then everything gets released in a dump (causing a 2GB+ update in one go) | 08:02:58 |
| Philip Mueller | Anyhow, regardless of the architecture. If you don't have some beefy build server it is more trouble than worth it. | 08:03:42 |
| 小月 | * Manjaro gets a bad rap... mostly from the forums, which are seen as integral to the distro. Admin's cannot into a reliable certificate update script and each year for a few days the forums go down. Also DDOSing the AUR was not a good look, this was caused by pamac and not properly testing/poor quality control. There is still a site along the lines of Manjarno, but as of my last check they'd broadly come around to Manjaro in a more positive light. Manjaro masquerading as 'rolling release' when it's a point release that release every two weeks or so, also doesn't help reputation matters. Arch Linux is a true rolling release, Manjaro holds things back until it has reached a point in time and then everything gets released in a dump (causing a 2GB+ update in one go).
Much of the hate in my experience comes from Arch users. | 08:03:39 |
| 小月 | Btw, I wouldn't trust the idea of "Ubuntu" being the number 1 most popular distro... maybe 15 years ago... | 08:04:52 |
| Philip Mueller | You can only do faster builds when you have automate things. A lot of things are still manually done. Even at Arch side. | 08:05:15 |
| Philip Mueller | the principle is still the same. you get a snapshot of what Arch has on its mirrors. Then you check on your own packages what needs either rebuilt or updated. Then put a set of packages ready for wider review in another branch and push it last into production. | 08:06:25 |
| Philip Mueller | it takes time to do QA for all of that. and when in stable branch some issues may still happen. like with the current one that one line in some icon theme package crashes a lot of apps including steam. | 08:07:10 |
| 小月 | I understand it, it's just getting ... old for me, so my next distro (if Manjaro breaks for whatever reason and apparently that's a big if) is gonna be Artix (I also dislike SystemD) | 08:19:54 |
| 小月 | is there a way to deny Desktop Notification per app? | 11:48:50 |
| Dennis ten Hoove | I know GNOME offers the option in the settings app. Unsure about other DEs. I would assume Plasma likely supports this also. | 11:50:02 |
| Dennis ten Hoove | * I know GNOME offers the option in the settings app. Unsure about other DEs. I would assume Plasma likely has a similar feature also. | 11:50:20 |
