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13 Aug 2021
@_slack_hotosm_ULPKSCD47:matrix.orgmartien arnalie validation weekend? My candidate would be project https://tasks.hotosm.org/projects/9133 It is urgent, only roads and almost finished. 18:54:31
@_slack_hotosm_ULPKSCD47:matrix.orgmartien (edited) ... project <https://tasks.hotosm.org/projects/9133> It ... => ... project <https://tasks.hotosm.org/projects/11083> It ... 18:55:17
@_slack_hotosm_U015AQNM77F:matrix.orgarnalie
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arnalie validation weekend? My candidate would be project https://tasks.hotosm.org/projects/11083 It is urgent, only roads and almost finished.
Righy! Thanks for reminding! There was a suggestion last week: https://hotosm.slack.com/archives/C4GLC45PY/p1628085447017800
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@_slack_hotosm_U015AQNM77F:matrix.orgarnalie Let's see if we can finish 2 projects for #ValidationWeekend this week! Project 11002 mapping disaster-prone areas in Central Asia, 91% mapped; 72% validated (as suggested by Katharina Lorenz last week), and Project 11083 South Sudan Covid Vaccination, 94%mapped; 87%validated (as suggested by martien) Mappy weekend! :) 19:37:45
14 Aug 2021
@_slack_hotosm_ULPKSCD47:matrix.orgmartien
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also OSMInspector, OSMcha, MapCampaigner
Thanks Rob for the addition. I mentioned these 3 because they are integrated into the ID Editor. So i wondered if that had a special reason, eg that it could be usable for regular validators?
17:48:12
15 Aug 2021
@_slack_hotosm_U1JS7R5UK:matrix.orgrussell.deffner hebolz - I see you're moving through the Haiti validation pretty quick; any issues/suggestions as I'm working on the next couple projects now? Also applies to any of you other wonderful validators that are making quick work of these projects! 19:30:13
@_slack_hotosm_U35A20RUZ:matrix.orgmichael63
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hebolz - I see you're moving through the Haiti validation pretty quick; any issues/suggestions as I'm working on the next couple projects now? Also applies to any of you other wonderful validators that are making quick work of these projects!
my two cents: in this area it pays to tell people not to map from Bing as that is 5-15 years old; I particularly looked at new mappers and their work was quite good
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@_slack_hotosm_U1JS7R5UK:matrix.orgrussell.deffner
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my two cents: in this area it pays to tell people not to map from Bing as that is 5-15 years old; I particularly looked at new mappers and their work was quite good
Ha, but I am using Bing as a reference since some of the smaller structures are easier to see there but have tree cover or otherwise can barely see them in any of the other imagery 🤷
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@_slack_hotosm_U1JS7R5UK:matrix.orgrussell.deffner
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Ha, but I am using Bing as a reference since some of the smaller structures are easier to see there but have tree cover or otherwise can barely see them in any of the other imagery 🤷
But thanks Michael, let me 'highlight' that it is much older...
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@_slack_hotosm_U01ATCLRKM4:matrix.orgRob Delmenico (rtbk) joined the room.20:31:22
@_slack_hotosm_U01ATCLRKM4:matrix.orgRob Delmenico (rtbk)
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But thanks Michael, let me 'highlight' that it is much older...
It might be hard to convey to the validators but I think using any mapping source is ok as long as it aligns to the Bing imagery and includes all the buildings in the Bing imagery? I was quite pleased with the quality of work in these two tasks, just the usual squaring of buildings for the newcomers but the footprints were pretty well spot on.
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@_slack_hotosm_U1JS7R5UK:matrix.orgrussell.deffner
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It might be hard to convey to the validators but I think using any mapping source is ok as long as it aligns to the Bing imagery and includes all the buildings in the Bing imagery? I was quite pleased with the quality of work in these two tasks, just the usual squaring of buildings for the newcomers but the footprints were pretty well spot on.
Did you mean Mapbox imagery? But yes, that's always a tough thing to convey
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@_slack_hotosm_U01ATCLRKM4:matrix.orgRob Delmenico (rtbk)
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Did you mean Mapbox imagery? But yes, that's always a tough thing to convey
Yeah mapbox :)
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16 Aug 2021
@_slack_hotosm_U015AQNM77F:matrix.orgarnalie
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Thanks Rob for the addition. I mentioned these 3 because they are integrated into the ID Editor. So i wondered if that had a special reason, eg that it could be usable for regular validators?
hey, anyone interested to discuss MapCampaigner for the HOT Data Quality Internship Program? 🙂 It is tentatively scheduled in the week of 13-17 Oct 🙂 please let me know if you are interested! :)
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@_slack_hotosm_U1JS7R5UK:matrix.orgrussell.deffner Hey all, just to note that I did see the messages about MAXAR imagery being better than Mapbox for the area in Haiti. I don't disagree, but at the moment MAXAR has not restored (fully) their service (that I know). I also know that we have a 'backdoor' API key for them but I am not comfortable doing a major buildings push with an imagery not available to the general public (for the moment). Of course, if you have MAXAR imagery from a TM project in your JOSM, then feel free to use it for validation but 'go lenient' on folks using Mapbox. Thank you all so much! 19:01:30
@_slack_hotosm_U029NPDH6TH:matrix.orgValerie Crowe joined the room.19:31:02
@_slack_hotosm_U029NPDH6TH:matrix.orgValerie Crowe Greetings! I am one of a few folk working at Amazon who are on medical restriction (light duty,) and have been assigned to the Missing Maps projects. I've been at it long enough now and have fixed enough mapping before calling tasks "done" that I thought I'd try official validating. Unfortunately, OpenWebStart, required to run the JOSM editor, cannot be loaded on the Chromebook they gave me to work with. Is that the only way to get it to work? 21:35:49
@_slack_hotosm_U1JS7R5UK:matrix.orgrussell.deffner
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Greetings! I am one of a few folk working at Amazon who are on medical restriction (light duty,) and have been assigned to the Missing Maps projects. I've been at it long enough now and have fixed enough mapping before calling tasks "done" that I thought I'd try official validating. Unfortunately, OpenWebStart, required to run the JOSM editor, cannot be loaded on the Chromebook they gave me to work with. Is that the only way to get it to work?
I don't have an answer for you Valerie, maybe someone here will - however, you might get faster answer in #josm
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@_slack_hotosm_U029NPDH6TH:matrix.orgValerie Crowe
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I don't have an answer for you Valerie, maybe someone here will - however, you might get faster answer in #josm
Ah, thank you!
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17 Aug 2021
@_slack_hotosm_UMZKQLDSN:matrix.orgJim Walseth The Algeria and Haiti projects that I am aware of are done (mapped and validated). If there are projects I'm not aware of that need validation please drop that info here. Thanks. 05:48:29
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@_slack_hotosm_U01EDL3S8F6:matrix.orgHannes Rost
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The Algeria and Haiti projects that I am aware of are done (mapped and validated). If there are projects I'm not aware of that need validation please drop that info here. Thanks.
what about https://tasks.hotosm.org/projects/11293 ?
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18 Aug 2021
@_slack_hotosm_U016HM7HF39:matrix.orgBoggedy
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Ah, thank you!
Valerie Crowe You dont need 'webstart' anyway but especially on a chromebook. You need the jar file and this maybe explains how to run a .jar like running a .exe in windows > https://www.reddit.com/r/Crostini/comments/k61ysf/how_to_run_jar_files_on_chrome_os_complete_linux/
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@_slack_hotosm_U0158HCAH51:matrix.orgmikko.tamura We would like to invite validators from Asia and the Pacific to join us this 27th of August 9AM UTC to have fun, relax in our monthly Map and Chat Hour! 12:00:48
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@_slack_hotosm_UQR05TK99:matrix.orgBry Damasco joined the room.12:42:34
@_slack_hotosm_U1JS7R5UK:matrix.orgrussell.deffner I am seeing some spectacularly detailed (with screen-shots) feedback to new mappers 👀 - you know who you are, and you're a validation rockstar 🤘 13:50:49

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