| 14 Aug 2019 |
 dnj (IRC) | take it from a guy who's been trying to pay himself and others with source-available code for 5 years | 22:57:33 |
| dnj (IRC) | it ain't easy ;p | 22:57:35 |
| dnj (IRC) | byra2, google and facebook's business model is user data | 22:57:45 |
| dnj (IRC) | no thx | 22:57:46 |
| dnj (IRC) | and yeah, amazon and netflix too | 22:57:58 |
| dnj (IRC) | but they mostly use the code to their benefit | 22:58:04 |
| dnj (IRC) | byra2, yes exactly | 22:58:06 |
| dnj (IRC) | I know that side of things - that's what I did before Copperhead | 22:58:12 |
| dnj (IRC) | it's great for solutions providers because they can combine OSS technology and provide support/services to clients | 22:58:30 |
| dnj (IRC) | but unfortunately that technology works best when people are paid to work on it | 22:58:45 |
| dnj (IRC) | and not ask to volunteer | 22:58:48 |
| dnj (IRC) | I know nothing about how qemu is funded | 22:59:32 |
| dnj (IRC) | don't get me wrong with what I'm saying here because I believe in OSS and source-available software | 22:59:49 |
| dnj (IRC) | byra2, I don't know enough about QEMU to have an opinion on that vs what we're doing | 23:01:49 |
| dnj (IRC) | HELL no | 23:02:06 |
| dnj (IRC) | ;p | 23:02:06 |
| dnj (IRC) | what do you mean by hardware anyways | 23:02:35 |
| dnj (IRC) | like making a custom phone? | 23:02:38 |
| dnj (IRC) | yes, that's one thing we're working on | 23:03:51 |
| dnj (IRC) | certifications take a looonngggg time | 23:04:01 |
| dnj (IRC) | absolutely | 23:04:41 |
| dnj (IRC) | lol | 23:05:10 |
| dnj (IRC) | he definitely knows his shit, good to see him back on Twitter | 23:05:23 |
| dnj (IRC) | and he seems to have either chilled out a bit or has someone writing more politically correct posts | 23:05:33 |
| dnj (IRC) | while subsequently being right | 23:05:42 |
| dnj (IRC) | yes true | 23:05:47 |
| dnj (IRC) | we were using their public patch set previously and had to drop it unfortunately | 23:05:54 |
| dnj (IRC) | google's kernels are catching up but then again we're source-available, so how does that work ;p | 23:06:04 |
| dnj (IRC) | we couldn't get a license from grsec with open source | 23:06:11 |
| dnj (IRC) | iirc | 23:06:11 |
