| 31 Mar 2021 |
 💬 | yutyo/D: FSFE is like OSI | 20:28:37 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: lesson for FSF noobs, people aren't just gonna abandon windows cause you shout at them | 20:29:05 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: Microsoft: You should use Microsoft Office 365 and pay through the nose
FSFE: Hey folks, here, use libreoffice, it's cool
FSF: HEY NO!!! THEY MUST USE GNU/Hurd before using libreoffice!!! | 20:30:33 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Lol, FSF doesn't do that. | 20:31:27 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: it's the entire reason they split | 20:31:46 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Ofc they suggest GNU, but not something like Hurd or a hard GNU/Linux distro like Gentoo. | 20:31:59 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: yes i was exaggerating a tad | 20:32:23 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: no one unironically says to use Hurd, it's a pile of trash, even RMS admits that | 20:32:49 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Not actually. FSFE is working with EU and got interested in identity politics. | 20:33:16 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Its why they are not very well with FSF, which includes people from all political backgrounds. | 20:33:37 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: but they do say shit like, distros shouldn't make it easy to get nvidia drivers | 20:33:38 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Cuz its firmware was all closed and there was no open alternative that got implemented at the time, which made it impossible for Linux Libre to work. | 20:34:22 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: working with the EU...they're a charity promoting the use of free software within europe, of course they try to get a govt organisation to switch (re @PPFI_matterbot: yutyo/D: Not actually. FSFE is working with EU and got inter...) | 20:34:40 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Even very hard for distros like Ubuntu for a good time. | 20:34:43 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Even was very hard for distros like Ubuntu for a good amount of time. ✏️ | 20:35:16 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: but if you say they're being funded by the EU and are corrupt, their total operating budget is 600,000€, they're tiny | 20:35:56 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: I said they work with them, not getting funded by them. | 20:38:10 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: that's their job | 20:38:21 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Anyways, I think advocating free os is also good. | 20:38:23 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: not at the exclusion of all other avenues to boost the percentage of free software (re @PPFI_matterbot: yutyo/D: Anyways, I think advocating free os is also good.) | 20:38:47 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: And that is what governments prefer to do. Generally they want privacy and switching to GNU/Linux distros is beneficial for them. | 20:39:01 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: yes, promote the OS, but people should run free software on closed platforms, it's a net positive and a far easier sell | 20:40:03 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: one of the main ways you sell libreoffice to old people, is it still looks like Microsoft Word 97 lol | 20:40:43 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: lol | 20:42:22 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Its actually better than OSI | 20:42:39 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: yes, the aims of OSI are not ones i agree with, the Free Software Movement is a better one, just wish people didn't clamour around the FSF like a church | 20:44:28 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: btw, GCC is being taken apart for scrap because of the FSF's decision to put stallman on the board, people are demanding their code be removed | 20:48:56 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: as is their right | 20:49:09 |
| 💬 | AmyCupcake/T: i wish it wasn't happening, but hey, choices have consequences, there are other compilers | 20:50:45 |
| 💬 | yutyo/D: Its not just possible to demand removal of a code, and whoever really does that probably has other problems. | 21:03:10 |
