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Mobile matrix client, written with Flutter - Beta: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.sputnikmessenger, Website: https://sputnik-messenger.com, 13 Servers

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17 Aug 2019
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthewon the sync/push stuff; please please understand that matrix’s sync stuff is not intrinsically long polling at all - that’s just the crappy default http transport22:01:33
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthewhttps://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/master/drafts/websockets.rst is a proposal and implementation for mapping it to WS for instance and using true push rather than long poll22:02:28
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthewbut the coap stuff obsolete that now22:02:35
@forgemo:mos.appMo πŸ›°
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on the sync/push stuff; please please understand that matrix’s sync stuff is not intrinsically long polling at all - that’s just the crappy default http transport
I guess I understand your point. http is currently the most pragmatic solution that just works for most clients/servers/platforms.
22:06:32
@forgemo:mos.appMo πŸ›°
In reply to @matthew:matrix.org
https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/master/drafts/websockets.rst is a proposal and implementation for mapping it to WS for instance and using true push rather than long poll
oh, didn't know that. i will compare it with my current push implementation. i might find something that helps me to improve my implementation πŸ€“
22:08:10
@forgemo:mos.appMo πŸ›°
In reply to @matthew:matrix.org
but the coap stuff obsolete that now
i really have to find out what coap is πŸ˜† sound like a silver bullet. since it's now midnight where I live, i'm going to watch the coap video tomorrow :)
22:11:43
@forgemo:mos.appMo πŸ›°i also have to go to bed now 😴 .... good night 🌠22:12:44
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthew
In reply to @forgemo:mos.app
I guess I understand your point. http is currently the most pragmatic solution that just works for most clients/servers/platforms.
precisely. the only reason we use it is to make it easy to write clients, and because alt transports are immature
22:13:05
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthewnight!22:13:23
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthew
In reply to @forgemo:mos.app
oh, didn't know that. i will compare it with my current push implementation. i might find something that helps me to improve my implementation πŸ€“
that proposal maps the whole CS API to websockets, so it won't be very efficient for your purpose - it'd need the "only send me events for pushes!" extension to work as you want
22:15:57
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthew(plus as you can tell, i think you should use something like CoAP or possibly QUIC rather than ye olde websockets for push :)22:16:14
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18 Aug 2019
@progserega:rsprim.ru@progserega:rsprim.ru
In reply to @forgemo:mos.app
I fixed the issue with russian text in the latest release. :) πŸ‡·πŸ‡ΊπŸ’ͺπŸŽ‰
Thank you very match!
00:38:51
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* @matthew:matrix.orgMatthew pleads for a s/martix/matrix/g on sputnik-messenger.com πŸ‘Ό12:17:54
@tulir:maunium.net@tulir:maunium.netregister martix.org? :D12:26:23
@forgemo:mos.appMo πŸ›°

You are killing me πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ™ˆ

i will rework the whole site later today. .... It's not up to date. I also have to explain how the white label concept is supposed to work.

12:49:51
@jomat:asra.grπš“πš˜Will there be fdroid releases?15:14:25
@jomat:asra.grπš“πš˜ I don't have a google account and can't use playstore 15:14:58
@deepbluev7:neko.devNico
Als Antwort auf @jomat:asra.gr
I don't have a google account and can't use playstore
You could temporarily use https://send.firefox.com/download/029e4ce870d453df/#6YQG_mPrcgGfDMvuxwIZQw . Mo posted that link in Matrix HQ yesterday
16:10:48
@jomat:asra.grπš“πš˜thx!17:14:32
@forgemo:mos.appMo πŸ›°
In reply to @jomat:asra.gr
Will there be fdroid releases?
I don't know much about fdroid and what exactly is required to release an app. It requires an app to be FOSS as far a si know ...sputniks code is about 99% Foss. the code base is designed to be a white label app where anybody can build a custom branded version of it. choosing name, colors, theme, artwork and so on. The sputnik messenger I'm releasing on the play store is also using this white label code as a basis ... configuring it with my "branding", connecting to my push server and so on. that outer shell I'm using with all branding related stuff is not open source, though. .... I'm not sure if such an app is allowed on fdroid. I will have to look into it. reason is: I want to make it difficult to build a 1:1 copy of my themed / branded / marketed version, but allow anyone interested to make his own version without any limitations.
17:22:49
@jomat:asra.grπš“πš˜marketed version? what? o.O17:54:09
@deepbluev7:neko.devNico Alternatively you could host your own fdroid repo, which wouldn't have those requirements but is some effort to set it up 18:48:42
@jomat:asra.grπš“πš˜i know, i could, i think i'll abstain from sputnik in the meantime ;-)20:59:24
@deepbluev7:neko.devNico
Als Antwort auf @jomat:asra.gr
i know, i could, i think i'll abstain from sputnik in the meantime ;-)
That was more meant as a reply to Mo
21:24:42
@tulir:maunium.net@tulir:maunium.net
In reply to @jomat:asra.gr
marketed version? what? o.O
the app is basically lots of modules + a kind of wrapper that contains branding/theme/etc. The default wrapper is proprietary, but there's an example of a whitelabel/unbranded wrapper in the github org
21:28:06
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthew
In reply to @tulir:maunium.net
register martix.org? :D
(i guess you don't know the story of martix.org then - troll extraordinaire: http://web.archive.org/web/20190130000752/http://martix.org/ )
21:35:40
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthewwhich tragically has gone down after... almost 5 years21:36:39
@matthew:matrix.orgMatthewand meanwhile caused no end of pain.21:36:44

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