| 5 Aug 2023 |
 @Jookia:libera.chat | there's a hard limit downt o 3.15 | 08:43:36 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | down to* | 08:43:39 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | and that is for the manager itself | 08:43:45 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | not the utils | 08:43:49 |
 @milkylainen:libera.chat | mkay. | 08:43:52 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/main/README#L32 lists what veresions are for each feature | 08:44:04 |
|  @ringlej:libera.chat left the room. | 08:44:18 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | i'm not a ptxdist user or contributor (yet) so i don't want to say to do things one way or another | 08:44:46 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | i just know way too much about systemd | 08:45:10 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | :) | 08:46:02 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | i wonder if openrc's rc_hotplug relies on eudev | 08:46:15 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | i would guess not given gentoo uses it with systemd's udev | 08:46:36 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | 3.15 is fine. It's going to be some old arm boards stuck on various vendor kernels. And they're getting pretty old by now anyway. | 08:47:07 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | i think my old phone runs 3.15 still :( | 08:47:26 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | Hmm. What's that? Android? Samsung S4? | 08:47:59 |
| * @milkylainen:libera.chat trying to remember the timeline | 08:48:24 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | i9100 | 08:48:36 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | galaxy s2 | 08:48:41 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | Oh. :) | 08:48:47 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | Not that far off. | 08:49:09 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | i will have to get a new phone by 2024 since they will be cutting 3g where i live | 08:49:55 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | problem with udev is that various libraries are starting to require features from systemd-udev. | 08:50:02 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | oh? like what? | 08:50:17 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | gudev is 25x something? | 08:50:52 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | ah, the wrappers | 08:50:58 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | yeah that's no good | 08:51:15 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | I think they've included sticky tags | 08:51:33 |
| @milkylainen:libera.chat | or something. | 08:51:36 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | breaking backwards compatibility annoys me :) | 08:53:03 |
| @Jookia:libera.chat | wrapper libraries hard depping like that isn't great for application developers that don't actually require those features | 08:54:01 |
