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21 Jun 2024
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmero
In reply to @pm4rcin:matrix.org
if you use vim then it's fine, I personally don't but there's nothing wrong having it
we arch users never learned the lesson lol. Anyways~
13:11:36
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmero
In reply to @thepragmaticmero:matrix.org
systemctl reboot
rpm-ostree cleanup --base
rpm-ostree cleanup --pending
these commands are supposed to clean my disk space right?
13:12:00
@pm4rcin:matrix.orgpm4rcin
In reply to @thepragmaticmero:matrix.org
these commands are supposed to clean my disk space right?
from quickly checking manpage they seem to delete pending deployments, it's if something is stuck it can clean up the mess from my understanding
13:14:46
@pm4rcin:matrix.orgpm4rcin
In reply to @thepragmaticmero:matrix.org
we arch users never learned the lesson lol. Anyways~
which lesson?
13:15:14
@kamin:kghorvath.comKaminIs it possible to chroot into a Silverblue installation? Say if you accidentally nuked /boot and needed to recreate it?13:32:17
@pm4rcin:matrix.orgpm4rcin
In reply to @kamin:kghorvath.com
Is it possible to chroot into a Silverblue installation? Say if you accidentally nuked /boot and needed to recreate it?
probably, try in a vm and tell us
13:44:20
@pm4rcin:matrix.orgpm4rcin thepragmaticmero I don't get what it has to do with arch 13:44:40
@pm4rcin:matrix.orgpm4rcin * thepragmaticmero I really don't get what it has to do with arch. Even though I know the jokes etc. but what you mean is a mystery to me. 13:45:36
@kamin:kghorvath.comKaminI tried and it didn't work because the deployment wasn't mounted13:45:36
@kamin:kghorvath.comKaminI read that bootupd in Fedora 41 may help alleviate this13:46:59
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenKamin: are you hitting https://github.com/fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker/issues/543 or something else?14:04:11
@kamin:kghorvath.comKaminNo what happened is that I tried regular Fedora on my system by installing it to a separate root subvol, leaving the silverblue install intact. However, I had to wipe /boot in the process. I'm trying to go back and normally I've been able to do this in the past by just chrooting into the old root install and regenerating /boot, but this doesn't seem to be possible in SB without a full reinstall14:06:23
@kamin:kghorvath.comKaminIt's not really the end of the world if I have to, just a little more inconvenient that there doesn't seem to be any way to do an offline rescue of SB14:07:01
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenI see14:08:04
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen * I see - it should be possible... but not sure I ever tried hm14:08:31
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen * I see - it should be possible I think... but not sure I ever tried hm14:08:43
@juhp:matrix.orgJens PetersenMight be tricky..14:09:28
@kamin:kghorvath.comKaminI think the issue is that due to the way SB works it doesn't really exist from an LFS point of a view until the deployment is mounted, so the regular old tools don't work. And it doesn't seem like there's ever really been an interest to work around it.14:09:41
@idkrn:envs.netidkrn
In reply to @juhp:matrix.org
It is actually, at least on my system, but anyway
It's just a part of nano
15:59:24
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmero how do I delete flatpak apps completely? I want to delete the contents of /var/lib/flatpak/.removed but I want to do it correctly, not by using rm
as a last resort i ran flatpak uninstall --delete-data but there's still 4 packages left.... am I condemned to use rm?
16:10:56
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmero huh... aparently a flatpak update deleted all the pesky /var/lib/flatpak/.removed files 16:31:53
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmerointeresting16:31:58
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmero

also.... why the /sysroot/ostree/repo/objects directory looks like this?

$ ls repo/objects/
00  06  0c  12  18  1e  24  2a  30  36  3c  42  48  4e  54  5a  60  66  6c  72  78  7e  84  8a  90  96  9c  a2  a8  ae  b4  ba  c0  c6  cc  d2  d8  de  e4  ea  f0  f6  fc
01  07  0d  13  19  1f  25  2b  31  37  3d  43  49  4f  55  5b  61  67  6d  73  79  7f  85  8b  91  97  9d  a3  a9  af  b5  bb  c1  c7  cd  d3  d9  df  e5  eb  f1  f7  fd
02  08  0e  14  1a  20  26  2c  32  38  3e  44  4a  50  56  5c  62  68  6e  74  7a  80  86  8c  92  98  9e  a4  aa  b0  b6  bc  c2  c8  ce  d4  da  e0  e6  ec  f2  f8  fe
03  09  0f  15  1b  21  27  2d  33  39  3f  45  4b  51  57  5d  63  69  6f  75  7b  81  87  8d  93  99  9f  a5  ab  b1  b7  bd  c3  c9  cf  d5  db  e1  e7  ed  f3  f9  ff
04  0a  10  16  1c  22  28  2e  34  3a  40  46  4c  52  58  5e  64  6a  70  76  7c  82  88  8e  94  9a  a0  a6  ac  b2  b8  be  c4  ca  d0  d6  dc  e2  e8  ee  f4  fa
05  0b  11  17  1d  23  29  2f  35  3b  41  47  4d  53  59  5f  65  6b  71  77  7d  83  89  8f  95  9b  a1  a7  ad  b3  b9  bf  c5  cb  d1  d7  dd  e3  e9  ef  f5  fb

why? flatpak looks kind of the same.

16:35:33
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmerook I found it. Content Adressable Storage, brought by ostree apparently huh.. interesting16:36:14
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmeroI'll call that a bitter win, 6GiB Fedora Silverblue installation~ neh~ anyways.16:37:45
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmerotnks for the help16:37:54
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmeroI feel more like a Arch user now16:38:10
@thepragmaticmero:matrix.orgthepragmaticmeroits beautiful16:43:24
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16:43:27
@chrisawi:gnome.orgchrisawi
In reply to @thepragmaticmero:matrix.org
huh... aparently a flatpak update deleted all the pesky /var/lib/flatpak/.removed files

.removed contains apps that are in use when they are uninstalled. As you've discovered, flatpak update cleans them up when that's no longer the case.

16:50:13

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