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Diskette Operating System Talking. +msdos:matrix.org community. MSDOS, DOS, WendinDOS, FreeDOS, Retro, Own-made DOS, etc. IBM PC and enthusiasts of retro computing are welcome. OpenWatcom? TurboC or maybe DJGPP; it's all welcome. Maybe also OSDeving a DOS?. 16-bit mode computers 4ever, CD-R is not CD-RW19 Servers

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28 Jul 2021
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk You can try asking about it on comp.compilers, and/or alt.folklore.computers 22:56:35
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk Not sure where else you can find old timers who might know. 22:56:54
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb I did not realize those places still existed. 22:57:25
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk I have a book, about the history of fortran, but I have not read enough to know if the term comes up there. 22:57:30
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk I might see if the term is in the index. 22:57:48
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk Just, to avoid confusion, try to make it clear that you're asking about the origin of the term, and not what it means. 22:58:35
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk [wherever you put your question.] 22:58:43
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb Yes, the origin, as I am now (finally) clear on the meaning. 22:59:06
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk the retrocomputing stack overflow, or regular stack overflow might also be good places to ask, but I'm not sure if you'll find many historical researchers there. 22:59:22
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb I have done a fair bit of googling, with setting the maximum date, but everything I have found so far seems to assume you are in-the-know. 23:00:07
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk ^ I don't use these places much, because I've found the quests for glory less than ideal motivators. 23:00:13
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb I also did not realize there was an SO for retrocomputing. 23:00:44
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk Yeah, google has been mostly useless to me, for my adventures in retroprogramming. 23:01:05
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk and historical research. 23:01:09
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk MichalN, of os2museum, is on #watcom on IRC, the OFTC network. He knows a lot, but not everything. 23:01:58
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb Indeed. Google has a hard time with the idea that I am not searching for what everyone else is searching for and/or I just want all the possible results regardless of whehter the algorithm thinks they are good. 23:02:57
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk yeah. 23:03:21
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb * Indeed. Google has a hard time with the idea that I am not searching for what everyone else is searching for and/or I just want all the possible results regardless of whether the algorithm thinks they are good. 23:03:38
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk I have considered writing my own search engine for retroprogramming -- but that'd be a nontrivial task and I don't relish the idea of parsing html; even with ready made tools. 23:04:08
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb I have been trying to code something up around the Google Search API to get around that, but I can not seem to clarify my thoughts / focus hard enough on it. 23:04:30
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb Mind you, I am the same person who has also now spent 12+ hours trying to figure out why the IP starts at 06h and the data segment starts at 0Ah. 23:09:11
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb i.e., I have no skill for just getting things done. 23:09:51
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb FWIW, the BeatifulSoup package for Python has this on total lock-down. And, the API truly is beautiful. (you just gotta deal with Python) 23:14:05
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb I regularly use it as an intermediary process in work I do in C, C++, and R. 23:15:12
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk I'll keep it in mind. I do not like python. I used it for a nontrivial project a decade ago, and I learned to hate it back then. 23:16:02
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb Yeah, it is super frustrating. 23:16:46
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb Arguably, because of the pleathora of skidz it really is the best at web-stuff, though. 23:17:29
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb * Arguably, because of the plethora of skidz it really is the best at web-stuff, though. 23:17:35
@_discord_751215296425099306:t2bot.ioJimBalcomb But, I continue to think that the advent of Node.JS is going to, effectively, eventually, destroy the reason for Python to exist. 23:19:14
@_discord_402104457296478208:t2bot.iomyrkraverk the fortran history book doesn't have an index 23:50:50

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