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17 May 2022
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosolTor is an actively hostile network and routing everything through it including all your 3rd party apps will harm privacy 23:10:06
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosolIn addition, tor doesn't support protocols like UDP afaik23:10:17
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosolSo not all traffic is sent over tor to begin with 23:10:33
@june:grapheneos.orgJune [home/stuck]yes tor only does TCP23:10:40
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosolYeah so basically ICMP will also leak i guess23:10:57
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosolNot sure 23:11:04
@june:grapheneos.orgJune [home/stuck]also why would you route things like DNS and NTP through Tor as well23:11:18
@june:grapheneos.orgJune [home/stuck]unencrypted 23:11:22
@june:grapheneos.orgJune [home/stuck]unauthenticated23:11:26
@pippo_la_bamba:matrix.orgpippo_la_bambaOKay okay lol, I will take my dumb-opsec question elsewhere; thanks for the support again, cya23:12:21
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosol
In reply to @june:grapheneos.org
also why would you route things like DNS and NTP through Tor as well
NTP isn't there in grapheneos btw
23:18:49
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosolDNS is not that huge of an issue tbh23:19:07
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosolPrivate dns will go through the VPN and ideally all apps use TLS since it's the default 23:19:27
@june:grapheneos.orgJune [home/stuck] randomhydrosol: isn't Private DNS by itself opportunistic? 23:20:50
@june:grapheneos.orgJune [home/stuck]i could just block 853 on my exit node23:20:56
@june:grapheneos.orgJune [home/stuck]and then it will fall back to plain text, no?23:21:03
@randomhydrosol:grapheneos.orgrandomhydrosol
In reply to @june:grapheneos.org
and then it will fall back to plain text, no?
No
23:21:11
@tigrel:matrix.orgtigrel
In reply to @june:grapheneos.org
i could just block 853 on my exit node

That can be done. In such case in DoT isthat will require the bloackage of port 443 strict, the device just womt resolve DNS queries.

The way to go would be DoH

23:27:51
@tigrel:matrix.orgtigrel* That can be done. In such case in DoT is strict, the device just wont resolve DNS queries. The way to go would be DoH 23:28:59
@tigrel:matrix.orgtigrelSadly android does not support it23:29:16
@lcalamar:matrix.orglcalamar

Some quick comments regarding being on GrapheneOS for - about 4 days.

  1. In general I really like it. I came from Calyxos whereas I felt like my hands were completely tied behind my back. I love that I can create a profile and sandbox some google apps in it (and others).

  2. My goal is to be minimal - I may migrate off my LP2 to a P6 w/GrapheneOS (thus, my testing). With OLauncher and limited apps - it looks good so far to find a good medium ground (I just wish Pixel had a 4" device ☹️ )

  3. Support here is really good in general - thanks to this community!!!

  4. That said - I do notice a lot of 'pointing to and/or quoting from GrapheneOS FAQ's/DOCS/MANUALS... I find that a little bit irritating. I have read the docs/etal - but I find them to be pretty poor at describing real-life use cases. If I'm asking a question - please assume I've done some research and don't just gleefully toss the manual in my face!

23:46:20
@lcalamar:matrix.orglcalamar *

Some quick comments regarding being on GrapheneOS for - about 4 days.

  1. In general I really like it. I came from Calyxos whereas I felt like my hands were completely tied behind my back. I love that I can create a profile and sandbox some google apps in it (and others).
  2. My goal is to be minimal - I may migrate off my LP2 to a P6 w/GrapheneOS (thus, my testing). With OLauncher and limited apps - it looks good so far to find a good medium ground (I just wish Pixel had a 4" device ☹️ )
  3. Support here is really good in general - thanks to this community!!!
  4. That said - I do notice a lot of 'pointing to and/or quoting from GrapheneOS FAQ's/DOCS/MANUALS... I have read the docs/etal - but I find them to be pretty poor at describing real-life use cases. If I'm asking a question - please assume I've done some research and don't just gleefully toss the manual in my face!
23:48:27
@strcat:grapheneos.orgstrcatif you've read a section of the site you can reference it in your question so people know that23:49:48
@strcat:grapheneos.orgstrcatthe documentation exists for a reason and it's unrealistic to expect long personalized write ups to each question instead of us writing it once on each topic for everyone23:50:19
18 May 2022
@tigrel:matrix.orgtigrelI find odd pixel phone came with a usb-c m to usb-c m and no adapter for C to A m00:13:10
@strcat:grapheneos.orgstrcatit's to attach it to an older phone for device-to-device backup00:13:49
@strcat:grapheneos.orgstrcatalso useful for attaching older accessories but not why it's included00:14:01
@tigrel:matrix.orgtigrel* I find it odd pixel 5a phone came with a usb-c m to usb-c m and no adapter for C to A m just a A f to C m00:14:07
@strcat:grapheneos.orgstrcatUSB-A to USB-C isn't particularly useful for most people since they aren't flashing an OS from an older laptop/desktop without USB-C00:14:32
@strcat:grapheneos.orgstrcatyou can flash GrapheneOS from another Android phone anyway00:14:43

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