| 21 Jan 2020 |
| 13:50:50 |  phoerious | Which is thanks to the code doing things all over the place. |
| 13:50:57 | phoerious | Bless OOP. |
| 13:51:22 |  droidmonkey | Perhaps we should move release data to private |
| 13:51:30 | droidmonkey | And listen for release requests |
| 13:51:36 | droidmonkey | (signals) |
| 13:51:47 | droidmonkey | But let the database class handle when to comply with that |
| 13:52:53 | droidmonkey | We basically give access to the world to explicitly break availability contracts within private member variables |
| 13:56:15 |  jdhore | I know this is old, but Bitwarden isn't "guiltware" from the dev, it's "guiltware" from the users who are: "It's only 10 fucking dollars, pay the man"...The dev is more like: "Enough companies pay for this that users...meh...pay me...or don't...whatever" |
| 13:57:27 | jdhore | The architecture of Bitwarden just kinda sucks though IMO and the dev is REALLY slow to implement stuff that LARGE portions of his userbase wants...and he's limited by stuff like the fact he's using JS for EVERY client |
| 15:10:18 |  hifi | it's not only 10 dollars if you are a company |
| 15:11:26 | hifi | their pricing model didn't scale for us so we didn't implement bitwarden |
| 15:13:32 | hifi | well it does but I guess the guiltware approach kinda killed interest |
| 15:13:57 | phoerious | 10 dollars for the first 10 users, then 10+n*2 for each additional users. |
| 15:14:40 | hifi | we have almost 500 users at work :s |
| 15:15:02 | phoerious | Well, that's 1010 dollars. |
| 15:15:06 | phoerious | For the 500th user |
| 15:15:35 | phoerious | Be glad it's not entirely exponential. |
| 15:16:15 | hifi | enterprise is $3/mo per user |
| 15:16:42 | phoerious | Quantity discounts are so 2019. We do quantity upcounts. |
| 15:19:43 | hifi | we ended up with lastpass, it's horrible |
| 15:20:37 | hifi | I still don't get it why their UI/UX is so bad given they are a business |
| 15:21:27 | hifi | keepassxc is far from the best UX but at least it's voluntary work |
| 16:02:06 | jdhore | Yeah, i'd certainly say Bitwarden > LastPass in terms of UX, though I think 1password wins the UX game |
| 18:34:45 | phoerious | I own two Apple devices now. Feels so bad. |
| 18:36:01 |  varjolintu | :) |
| 19:33:47 | droidmonkey | Yucky |
| 23:55:07 | phoerious | This new mini is magnitudes after than the old one at least. |
| 23:57:51 | phoerious | The setup was a little iffy. Despite showing the dialogue, I couldn't get it to pair my Bluetooth mouse during the initial set up, so I had to plug in the dongle. Then it wanted me enter my WiFi password (no WPS) and my credentials before giving me the chance to pair the Bluetooth keyboard beforehand. But now it's working and the data transfer went smoothly. |
| 23:59:37 | phoerious | Back to hands-off VNC-only on this thing now. That's what I got a mini and not a thingy with a screen attached to it. Yay. |
| 22 Jan 2020 |
| 00:04:39 | phoerious | After = faster. Good night. |
