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13 Sep 2020
@gh0st:matrix.orggh0st changed their display name from Kasper the doomed ghost to gh0st.11:55:57
15 Sep 2020
@Tavo-Montavo:matrix.orgTavo-MontavoIs anyone looking for a sublet for Oct in Oakland? 02:09:08
16 Sep 2020
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17 Sep 2020
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18 Sep 2020
@r4d1c4l3d:matrix.org@r4d1c4l3d:matrix.org Anybody driving from Oregon to the bay anytime soon ? 02:13:21
@spukkin:matrix.orgspukkinsorry, we're not accepting any more Oregon refugees.02:24:39
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@thebamfic:matrix.orgbamfichttps://zuckerpunch.github.io/05:19:35
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Twas sublime! Where can I find the recording?
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@spukkin:matrix.orgspukkinhttps://spaz.org/archives/imports/2020-09-17-Spukkin_Faceship_s_Fukkin_Spaceship.ogg16:16:53
21 Sep 2020
@thebamfic:matrix.orgbamfichttps://www.netflix.com/title/81254224 worth watching if you can04:14:32
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24 Sep 2020
@jonah_bumonah:matrix.orgjonah_bumonahYeah.. leaving FB is in the popular zeitgeist right now. I think we should do an organized promotional effort to move people to a new platform.05:35:25
@jonah_bumonah:matrix.orgjonah_bumonahhttps://soundcloud.com/wahyu-pratama-diva/dj-liep-liep-lipi-gadangjurus-andalantiktok-wahyuprtma-ft-adivaherz05:36:17
@spukkin:matrix.orgspukkinI think people should just 24/7 listen to our wacky internet radio and hang out in the chat with silly names. Kite flying is good too.06:35:24
@jonah_bumonah:matrix.orgjonah_bumonahFor most people listening to the radio and flying kites isn't engaging enough. I think I'm different than most people in that I use the social networks to traffic art/music, and through that I find some sense of connection with humanity. I think most people do the same, just without the art/music part. In quarantine it's magnified cause there's not much real world alternative, unless you want to live a totally monkish lifestyle. Interacting with the world via the screen can have dangerous side-effects and can be addictive, but I think that's based mostly on the structure and algorithms of the platforms.06:53:48
@noitom.e:matrix.orgnoitom.eDo the developers think that everyone looks at the ads they feed us in sm? My brain is trained to ignore them-i don't even notice at this point07:12:06
@jonah_bumonah:matrix.orgjonah_bumonahMe too. I guess all that matters is companies keep paying for the ad space.08:01:35
@noitom.e:matrix.orgnoitom.eIt's weird how that social media "documentary" on Netflix frames things like we don't have a choice but to be controlled by the algorithmz. I know younger kids are more susceptible, but that's why digital citizenship is growing into a bigger conversation/topic of study, albeit a not yet mandatory one, in public schools15:31:01
@thebamfic:matrix.orgbamficGood in theory, but in practice there is no citizenship in today's corporate-run social media internet: there is only consumers, and the consumed. 20:14:04
25 Sep 2020
@thebamfic:matrix.orgbamfichttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/22/anger-and-confusion-after-facebook-suspends-environmental-and-indigenous-groups03:35:24
@jonah_bumonah:matrix.orgjonah_bumonahI like to think that I and most of my friends are critically-thinking enough not to be swayed by the news and opinions that the algorithms favors, but I think the doc is more pointing out the way that the general masses are swayed by it. (I also think I use SM in a way that I'm not putting my self worth on the line so much by hoping for likes on selfies, etc.) I guess that is one alternative solution to abandoning or replacing the platforms - changing the way we use them. But yeah, the kids are probably less likely to be able to do that, growing up online.04:02:07
@jonah_bumonah:matrix.orgjonah_bumonahBut on the other hand, the whole trend towards conspiracy theorizing, I think, shows that people are less likely to believe what they're told by the mainstream, which could be a good sign. The hope would be that we all eventually learn how fringe news should be regarded with the same skepticism.04:04:32
@jonah_bumonah:matrix.orgjonah_bumonahThe rise of deep fake videos etc. will probably fuel greater skepticism as well, which can be good to a degree, but probably bad if it leads to complete nihilism. Or we could enter an age of absolute magical thinking, where the laws of reality are transcended and everyone learns to will their fantasies into being, possibly aided by mind-controlled nano-structures.04:10:27
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But on the other hand, the whole trend towards conspiracy theorizing, I think, shows that people are less likely to believe what they're told by the mainstream, which could be a good sign. The hope would be that we all eventually learn how fringe news should be regarded with the same skepticism.

The problem in general is who to trust. How do you create a trustworthy source of news? Journalists have to eat, somebody has to fund their investigations, who's it going to be? Rupert Murdoch? Jeff Bezos? Vladimir Putin? How do you create accountability? The medium that can convey massive truth can also convey massive lies, and you don't need any algorithm to get people outraged over hyped-up rumors.

I think Spukkin is right. People need to turn off their screens and go fly kites.

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29 Sep 2020
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