| 12 Jun 2023 |
 m4b | but then i'm thinking if i have an (unconditional) dep on log which is 1.60 now, is there any purpose to having me set the msrv to 1.56? it may as well be 1.60, since you can't build that project without a 1.60 compiler afaics | 03:29:00 |
 cwfitzgerald | In reply to @m4b:matrix.org
but then i'm thinking if i have an (unconditional) dep on log which is 1.60 now, is there any purpose to having me set the msrv to 1.56? it may as well be 1.60, since you can't build that project without a 1.60 compiler afaics yeah, if a dependants msrv is higher than yours, your msrv is just theirs | 03:31:01 |
| m4b | yea so i wish that was an error tbh; (if an unconditional dep sets msrv higher than mine, i'd like at least a warning/error that it does nothing) | 03:31:48 |
| m4b | kind of bummed log bumped that too, it's kind of a breaking change (and just randomly broke my CI!) | 03:32:14 |
| m4b | on the other hand, probably it's more annoying to update literally mega thousands of crates using log 😆 | 03:32:46 |
| m4b | In reply to @kvark:matrix.org
I see, thanks for clarifying! So the idea is to ignore Lemmy because some of the authors support Russia's actions? ~action~ invasion; fixed that for you :) | 03:36:06 |
| m4b | In reply to @kvark:matrix.org
I see, thanks for clarifying! So the idea is to ignore Lemmy because some of the authors support Russia's actions? * action invasion; fixed that for you :) | 03:36:25 |
| cwfitzgerald | In reply to @m4b:matrix.org
on the other hand, probably it's more annoying to update literally mega thousands of crates using log 😆 yeah, it's a balance | 03:54:04 |
 @heavyrain266:mozilla.org | kvark: Khronos have almost perfect and much simpler replacement for USD, it's called glXF (glTF Experience Format) https://github.com/KhronosGroup/glXF/blob/main/specification/2.0/README.md | 16:57:54 |
| @heavyrain266:mozilla.org | Basically you can combine multiple glTF files into single "experience" like USD does to layers | 16:58:33 |
 jasperrlz | VRML's back, baby | 17:33:07 |
| @heavyrain266:mozilla.org | It is used by WebSG (Web Scene Graph) standard 😆 | 18:37:06 |
| jasperrlz | tbh, I've been really disappointed by glTF | 18:37:26 |
| jasperrlz | It seems to mostly have found its footing as an interchange format rather than a delivery format, which makes sense, because it has none of the features you'd expect from a great delivery format. | 18:37:53 |
| @heavyrain266:mozilla.org | Pretty much every non in-house format is just interchange and that glTF doesn't support e.g. voxels without wacky extensions, since it's polygonal | 18:39:15 |
| @heavyrain266:mozilla.org | Pixar's format is what you can deliver but then Remedy still uses in-house format to deliver games because USD is huge when compiled and doesn't work on consoles | 18:40:33 |
| @heavyrain266:mozilla.org | glTF also lacks support for embedding OpenVDB simulation and it's quite annoying | 18:45:30 |
| @heavyrain266:mozilla.org | * glTF also lacks support for embedding OpenVDB simulations which is quite annoying | 18:45:48 |
| m4b | so nobody is excited for vision pro? how long before launch do you think someone has a wgpu app running? :) | 19:31:25 |
| cwfitzgerald | Looks interesting, just have better things to drop 3.5Gs on | 19:38:22 |
| cwfitzgerald | In reply to @m4b:matrix.org
so nobody is excited for vision pro? how long before launch do you think someone has a wgpu app running? :) Probably not long, I got the impression a lot of thing will work out of the box | 19:39:08 |
| m4b | it's a big glass of kool-aid, and i'm thirsty 😆 | 19:39:51 |
| m4b | for me i've wanted so long a vr-esque workstation situation with good text resolution; if they pull that off, i could see it becoming my prime developing activity if and that's a big if, it's more like a mac and less like an iphone/ipad w.r.t. software dev/applications/etc. there is the laptop thing where you can see the screen of a laptop as window, but not sure that's enough. there is so much uncharted territory imho, it seems very exciting. ide's in particular could become very interesting/whole new avenues to explore. or maybe it'll be terrible , i have no idea haha | 19:41:56 |
| m4b | besides with today's inflation, will 3.5k actually be a lot in a year or so when it releases? 😅 | 19:42:58 |
 David Huculak | Damn I never saw the vision pro promo video. Looks like some black mirror shit | 19:46:20 |
| David Huculak | Would be awesome to see wgpu running on it | 19:46:36 |
| 13 Jun 2023 |
 kvark | Any lobste.rs users here? | 14:57:40 |
 Ralith | I've poked it a few times | 17:15:59 |
| kvark | Ralith: can you invite me? | 17:38:43 |
| Ralith | kvark: sure, same email you use on gh? | 18:06:00 |
