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18 Apr 2021
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldIt's possible. My understanding is that it also doesn't support Docker, right?10:34:12
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldDocker is by far the easiest way to run anything at the moment. Never have to worry about dependencies ever again10:34:49
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C Arnold(once you get Docker's dependencies satisfied, of course)10:35:05
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatus those of "plex" don't want me to switch to jellyfin10:35:12
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatusyes, but TrueNAS is not compatible with Docker10:35:49
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatusTrueNAS works so well for me that I don't want to switch to another operating system10:36:52
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldUnderstandable, just giving you data. I chose Unraid after looking at FreeNAS, TrueNAS, and Unraid, mainly because it completely supported Docker and everything else I needed, including dual parity drives and independent and non-striped drives.10:39:24
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatusemby and plex are compatible with TrueNAS a pity that jellyfin is not yet10:40:44
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatusZFS is by far the best file system10:41:47
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatusand TrueNAS is rock stable10:42:30
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldThat's the other reason I went with Unraid. And pretty much everything is going to containers right now. It's rather unfortunate that TrueNAS is outdated in that respect still10:44:14
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatus jails are much more stable and efficient than dockers10:47:20
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatusdocker emulates a lightweight linux, jails use the same hardware as the operating system itself10:49:05
@claz:matrix.orgcviumTrueNAS is BSD, isn't it?10:49:14
@claz:matrix.orgcvium
In reply to @vittatus:matrix.org
docker emulates a lightweight linux, jails use the same hardware as the operating system itself
that doesn't sound entirely correct
10:49:36
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatus
In reply to @claz:matrix.org
TrueNAS is BSD, isn't it?
yes
10:49:51
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C Arnold Docker is pretty much chrooting, not emulation, iirc. 10:50:28
@claz:matrix.orgcviumPlex is mostly C++ iirc and Emby still supports Mono. Jellyfin is pure .NET 5 and there's no official .NET runtime for BSD10:50:31
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldAlso, docker definitely lets you use the same hardware as the OS. That's how hardware transcoding works.10:52:14
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatus
In reply to @claz:matrix.org
Plex is mostly C++ iirc and Emby still supports Mono. Jellyfin is pure .NET 5 and there's no official .NET runtime for BSD
we will have to wait for a final version of TrueNAS scale
10:52:48
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatushttps://www.truenas.com/truenas-scale/10:53:07
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@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldAlso, looks like jails don't allow you to run pre-build containers made by the application developers. If that's the case, they aren't an alternative to Docker any more than a moving truck is an alternative to shipping containers.10:58:33
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C Arnold(in that they can perform some of the same jobs, but neither one can fully replace the other)10:59:33
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatus
In reply to @thetrenchie:matrix.org
Also, looks like jails don't allow you to run pre-build containers made by the application developers. If that's the case, they aren't an alternative to Docker any more than a moving truck is an alternative to shipping containers.
is Jellyfin stable with docker?
11:01:13
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldBeen running it in containers since I started using it, moved it around to different machines and operating systems and even architectures without any issues.11:01:54
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldQuite literally just changed the docker-compose.yml file to switch the deployment requirements and it shuts down it down on the old server and starts it up on the new one, no issues.11:03:21
@vittatus:matrix.orgvittatusI like plex, but I want some free code and that the devs listen to us with the improvements, plex does not listen to anyone11:04:06
@thetrenchie:matrix.orgBrian C ArnoldPlus if it's running in a container, then everyone who's running that image is running exactly the same version with no differences, same library versions, etc. You don't run into weird things like your media info missing for some reason because $CAUSE11:04:53

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