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isoldeunicorn | Hi, could anyone help me out with the time signatures 3/4 and 6/4 - how are they different ? | 11:00:40 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | It's mostly a matter of perspective. For example, you technically can notate any 4/4 piece as 2/4 but if the internal structure of the pulse has some repeating patterns spanning longer than 2 crotchet then there's little sense to not reflect it in the notation. | 11:04:58 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | A bar is just a logical chunk of music. If your rhythm doesn't fit nicely into 3/4 (there's some syncopation/tied shorter notes between first three and second three quarter notes) then it's a sign you may be better off with a longer bar | 11:08:57 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | * It's mostly a matter of perspective. For example, you technically can notate any 4/4 piece as 2/4 but if the internal structure of the pulse has some repeating patterns spanning longer than 2 crotchets then there's little sense to not reflect it in the notation. | 11:11:03 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | isoldeunicorn: does this answer your question? | 11:13:22 |
isoldeunicorn | ok so can i think of it like 6/4 =/= playing 3/4 twice, because in 6/4, I have 3 of 2/4's to play with in one bar, and in 3/4, I just do a 1/4 in three's? | 11:14:27 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | That's a bit confusing, but seems right. 6/4 is twice longer than 3/4, regardless of what you're fitting into the measure. | 11:16:22 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | Even though you're free to use any reference points to determine your signature, there are some conventions you'd better be following if the notation is not intended only for your personal use | 11:17:41 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | For example, 3/4 and 6/8 are of the same duration, but they are used in different contexts. Usually, 3/4 implies that rhythmic structure closely follows three groups of 2 quavers, while 6/8 follows two groups of 3 quavers. Usually accented beats determine what the appropriate groupings are | 11:19:39 |
isoldeunicorn | Yeah, 3/4 feels very different from 6/8 because the down beats and up beats are placed in different places. Would it confuse people if say I have the accents places on beats 1 ,3 & 4 in a 6/4 piece? | 11:31:08 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | It's hard to say. It might or it might not. If you can clearly divide your 6/4 into two 3/4 (and you usually can when you have an accent on a 4th crotchet) then I'd go with 3/4 | 11:35:41 |
isoldeunicorn | oh right.... would 1,3,5 be better then? | 11:39:42 |
@Zoom:matrix.org | π€· | 11:41:14 |
isoldeunicorn | Haha guess I'll find out the hard way if it turns out wrong. Thanks Zoom! | 11:47:59 |
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