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30 Aug 2022
@_discord_756682465082343506:t2bot.ioJfrevert#2945 joined the room.15:31:14
@_discord_756682465082343506:t2bot.ioJfrevert#2945 Yeah, thanks. It’s just the normal anti-spam timer they give you after joining the server 15:31:14
@_discord_756682465082343506:t2bot.ioJfrevert#2945 Yeah, or it could hook into Treasury’s handlers, for example to delete every time there is an approval or rejection 15:33:21
@_discord_756682465082343506:t2bot.ioJfrevert#2945 And that would remove the need for manual deletes 15:33:50
@_discord_756682465082343506:t2bot.ioJfrevert#2945 Maybe there’s similar handlers for the other gov pallets 15:34:01
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@_discord_756682465082343506:t2bot.ioJfrevert#2945 Cool, will start with kabocha on some branch 17:48:17
@_discord_412648781109002260:t2bot.ioRamsey | Kabocha Tech Steward awesome, kab-release-v0.2.3 is the latest branch, one thing to note is that the balances are filtered in this branch. setBalance works from root of course, but not balance transfer. https://github.com/kabocha-network/parachain/tree/kab-release-v0.2.3 18:44:57
@_discord_480348633632604160:t2bot.iorichdecentpartners Might also be good for you to give Jfrevert a quick heads up on the new pallets we’re introducing to kabocha Ramsey (Decentration) OOO 19:13:53
@_discord_480348633632604160:t2bot.iorichdecentpartners We didn’t really cover that today 19:20:00
@_discord_412648781109002260:t2bot.ioRamsey | Kabocha Tech Steward Jfrevert

Supersig, like multisig but with superpowers 🦸‍♀️ https://decentration.medium.com/supersig-like-multisig-but-with-superpowers-86b9ce0412f6 (pallet version completed)

Subscriptions automated payments, (pallet in progress, we're thinking about how to partially leverage OAK functionality via XCM) https://medium.com/coinmonks/web3-subscriptions-kabocha-3f961e26162a
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@_discord_412648781109002260:t2bot.ioRamsey | Kabocha Tech Steward https://github.com/kabocha-network/pallet_supersig/tree/polkadot-v0.9.28 19:27:04
@_discord_756682465082343506:t2bot.ioJfrevert#2945 Beautiful. Some good stuff for daos here 21:46:53
31 Aug 2022
@_discord_412648781109002260:t2bot.ioRamsey | Kabocha Tech Steward Awesome thanks yes, useful DAO features that solves some of our own needs, and we can start using in the wild. A few trade offs using supersig to multisig such as no deterministic creation of accounts, and supersig addresses won’t be accessible on other chains. (Actually we need to add that as a more visible warning ⚠️) Other than that, add/removing members, simpleMajority and master user features is worth the trade off to a bunch of users. 08:55:19
@_discord_480348633632604160:t2bot.iorichdecentpartners Paraphrasing ramsey

useful features that solve our own needs, that we can start using in the wild.

this is exactly the strategy we should (and are) pursuing and is a far more structured approach to a development roadmap than an arbitrary “use case” that is difficult to test and is designed for some imagined set of users.

In the end we are solving our own challenges first and our experiments in governance are illustrating the issues present for users (those users being us).

In some ways this is why I’m more excited about the subscriptions pallet addressing issues with salaries and payment structures for contributors (a pressing need) rather than the mentioned potential of unlocking Web2 memberships etc which may be further down the line and is already serviced by Web2 solutions.

The thinking behind version control, Root (modular proposals, preferendums and ponderated voting) again plays to our day to day issues.

Seeds is once again a solution that aims to address our issues with identity and credentials.

We shouldn’t underestimate the small group power of our emerging community to mine the key insights and dog food the resulting solutions
09:10:19
@_discord_480348633632604160:t2bot.iorichdecentpartners Of course we also need to push forward and experiment since we don’t know what we don’t know 09:18:19
@_discord_480348633632604160:t2bot.iorichdecentpartners Which is why we need some out there projects that unlock new issues 09:18:22
@_discord_480348633632604160:t2bot.iorichdecentpartners Anyways great to have you here Jfrevert 09:18:23
@_discord_815806206831886336:t2bot.iojelliedowl Does that mean there will also be a problem viewing them in Polkadot.js and subscan? 09:26:42
@_discord_815806206831886336:t2bot.iojelliedowl * Does that mean there will also be a problem viewing them in Polkadot.js and subscan? 09:26:53
@_discord_412648781109002260:t2bot.ioRamsey | Kabocha Tech Steward There’s room for various dynamic approaches not one fixed conclusion of what is right and wrong way rich - decent partners 09:26:58
@_discord_412648781109002260:t2bot.ioRamsey | Kabocha Tech Steward No problem you can do all functionality from extrinsics 09:26:59
@_discord_412648781109002260:t2bot.ioRamsey | Kabocha Tech Steward While we create better interface 09:27:00
@_discord_412648781109002260:t2bot.ioRamsey | Kabocha Tech Steward * There’s room for various dynamic approaches not one fixed conclusion of what is right and wrong way rich - decent partners 09:27:01
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