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28 Sep 2017
02:10:46@paulfree:matrix.orgpaulfreeyes very true!
02:11:12@stragu:matrix.orgstraguI like to think that we are getting to a "cultural post-scarcity" stage in which we can really make the choice of only "consuming" stuff from the Commons an avoiding copyrighted material, without feeling limited.
02:17:06@paulfree:matrix.orgpaulfree as more ppl do that it also would increase more interest in others joining to share commons.

And as more do so as higher the pressure against those fighting for copy-stop (think we should get rid of the narrative copy-right, as it's a false conception naming it a right when it's about forbitting you to copy. And it's creators it's also not really protecting neither supporting)

02:19:23@paulfree:matrix.orgpaulfree have you've seen the study made through the EU in 2014 which they hold under secret cause the finding seemed not support their politics.
Was published in the summer this year through Julia pirate/green party I think
02:19:54@stragu:matrix.orgstraguI'd love to read that, if you can send a link
02:20:51@stragu:matrix.orgstragu

as more ppl do that it also would increase more interest in others joining to share commons. And as more do so as higher the pressure against those fighting for copy-stop (think we should get rid of the narrative copy-right, as it's a false conception naming it a right when it's about forbitting you to copy. And it's creators it's also not really protecting neither supporting)

agree

02:35:55@paulfree:matrix.orgpaulfree https://social.tchncs.de/@paulfree14/5027153
02:38:06@stragu:matrix.orgstragusuper, thanks for that !
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03:14:02@stragu:matrix.orgstraguRedacted or Malformed Event
03:16:59@stragu:matrix.orgstragu paulfree: , have you had a look at the report? I think it needs further scrutiny, Julia might be simplifying or interpreting a bit too much, but I might be reading the conclusions wrong and should have a read through the whole thing, but it is a rather long document. It is also mentioned in the comments (a few of them are worth the read) that it might be the poor quality of the report that made them refrain from publishing (still unjustified in my opinion), and therefore the conclusion might not be as valuable.
03:18:27@stragu:matrix.orgstraguWe need to keep looking for reliable science, and this sales displacement issue is definitely something that is hard to study. I am looking forward to reading more analysis about this report.
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09:48:46@paulfree:matrix.orgpaulfree stragu: yeah indeed haven't read it.
Just read two articles about from sources I hoped to trust. One was Julias blog and the other was netzpolitik.org.
What made me think that the persons from the EU behind this study didn't published cause of not being happy with the results is, that this study was used in another documenting claiming that creators have losses cause of piracy....using this one case but being silent about all the others where it's not true.

...but I haven't looked into this document neiter.
Can you read german? I could link you the netzpolitik.org article

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12:09:43@paulfree:matrix.orgpaulfree 'allmende.io communication infrastructure for the Commons'

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02:18:40@stragu:matrix.orgstragu

'allmende.io communication infrastructure for the Commons' #allmende:matrix.org

very cool!

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