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15 Oct 2021
@_discord_736254306134523965:t2bot.iotrosel#0574 admiral in volapuk is “lamiral” lmaoo 20:37:57
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis volapuk adds "l" as an initial consonant based on french l' right?? 21:09:04
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský Mi dim dis bi korekt. 21:31:17
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis note: "korekt" would not be a valid interjargon word. why? words (other than proper nouns) can never end with a consonant cluster (although one is allowed to pronounce -ng as a cluster if you cannot pronounce the velar nasal) 21:33:09
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský I see. So I would assume "korek"? 21:34:49
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis korekte, in fact 21:34:58
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský Dis bi klever.
So you can keep using the derivations that require the -t-.
21:35:39
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis -e is used as an epenthetic vowel for words ending in consonant clusters. why? because english never has word-final /ɛ/ outside of interjections like "meh", so it'll never get confused with pre-existing words.
suffixes that start w vowels delete final -e. so "korekte" -> "korekting", for example
21:36:50
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský I don't like repeating myself, but I like Interjargon. 21:37:40
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis danke! 21:37:45
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský By the way, even more so when it comes in the form of a cartoon in the Mr. Špatnýnocký style! 😃 21:38:44
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis i may be making a warning pamphlet in interjargon about Evil Juan Rome sometime soon.
you really have to watch out
21:39:28
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenskýEquinoxe-Mannle.PNG
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21:43:38
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský Don't you worry, I will! 21:43:39
16 Oct 2021
@_discord_299585092622483457:t2bot.ioBlueRider#9890 korek sounds better 06:42:35
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský At least it sounds Indonesian! 😃
But I can understand ellipsis's point here: by using the -t-, Interjargon can maintain the usual derivatives.
I guess the pronunciation of the final -e as what is called šva in Ekumenski would be tolerable.
09:08:34
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský * At least it sounds Indonesian! 😃
But I can understand ellipsis's point here: by using the -t-, Interjargon can maintain the usual derivatives.
I guess the pronunciation of the final -e as what is called šva in Ekumenski would be tolerable.
09:08:43
@_discord_299585092622483457:t2bot.ioBlueRider#9890 a final double stop seems like the hardest combination to pronounce 09:28:14
@_discord_299585092622483457:t2bot.ioBlueRider#9890 and even some european languages assimilate one of the two sounds (like italian) 09:28:34
@_discord_299585092622483457:t2bot.ioBlueRider#9890 koret is an alternative 09:28:52
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský Good idea. Dropping the k instead of the t could work as well.

As for the double stop: Romanian does it, right? Or is there a secret in pronunciation which is not reflected in orthography? I am under the impression that the pronunciation of Romanian is a very clear one.
09:37:05
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@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis keeping the kt makes derivatives sound better 12:09:48
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský As often, Ekumenski opts for a fair (?) compromise: To keep the forms that are familiar from European languages it uses -kt- (and -pt-) as well, accepting that the corresponding roots like skript or fakt then might sound hard.

But then again, Ekumenski is the Jack the Knipper among eurolangs anyway, že? 😃
12:16:35
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis good thing that isnt in interjargon 12:17:29
@_discord_860934264434720809:t2bot.ioDobridenský Therefore it's Interjargon. 👍 12:18:08
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis lol yeah, that is the easiest solution in terms of preservation 12:18:52
@_discord_299585092622483457:t2bot.ioBlueRider#9890 It's true that Romanian does have a clean pronunciation and quite sharp endings, so the problem was not with me being able to pronounce it, but with universal ease of pronunciation 14:43:50
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis yeah 14:46:38
@_discord_241724001284521984:t2bot.ioellipsis that is something i often have to explain when making my phonotactic points: i'm fine, but other people aint 14:47:09

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