| 7 May 2020 |
 @psychopathx:matrix.org | so...there is no cure or drug that can help...yet | 01:58:10 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | the only thing PROVEN to help is taking Vitamin D3 2x2000 per day | 01:59:28 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | before you're sick | 01:59:36 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | the studies clearly show that people who have serious health risks have lower D3 levels | 02:00:23 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | also - smokers are less likely to catch the virus | 02:00:48 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | but the symptoms IF they catch it can be more dangerous | 02:01:05 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | but nicotine can help if not smoked | 02:01:16 |
 @ernie:midov.pl | In reply to @psychopathx:matrix.org
sent an image. read the study, it was a shit study done using data from the VA. The retarded docs were giving HCQ without zinc. All of the patients that were given HCQ were elderly train wrecks with multiple diseases. HCQ is not effective without zinc and many of us knew this in January. Anyone with the internet and a general understanding of the material in a first year biology textbook could have watched a fucking youtube video on the mechanism of action of HCQ. Most doctors didnt because they expect the establishment to spoon feed them optimal practices. | 03:54:45 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | Yes, the pillars of power are more incapable than what I explained above. | 03:57:08 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | wut | 03:57:22 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | there is literally no proof that HCQ works, mainly anecdotal evidence | 03:58:08 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | I was also pushing HCQ and chloroquine as potential cure for covid19 | 03:59:14 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | but I read lots of research and there is no evidence that it helps and no real evidence that it doesnt help, but I lean towards the latter | 04:00:04 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | Its not a cure, it's a treatment. HCQ does nothing for treatment against covid19 without zinc. | 04:00:21 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | only small group research, so there is no way to tell | 04:00:25 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | read what the docs are experiencing, the ones that are treating patients on the ground. | 04:01:17 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | well, zinc is also good for viruses | 04:01:30 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | not only sars-cov-2, as far as I know | 04:01:51 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | there wont be large double blind studies done until the dust settles. | 04:01:55 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | 4000 vitamin d + zinc is the best we can do now | 04:02:03 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | In reply to @ernie:midov.pl
there wont be large double blind studies done until the dust settles. true | 04:02:10 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | In reply to @ernie:midov.pl
Its not a cure, it's a treatment. HCQ does nothing for treatment against covid19 without zinc. oops, I meant treatment, sorry :) | 04:03:41 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | btw. If I remember correctly, hydroxychloroquine helps zinc to get to the virus inside cells to destroy it
| 04:05:11 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | all hcq + zinc does is prevent the reproduction rates preventing lower viral loads, which gives time for your immune system to build antibodies. its the most effective treatment we have currently. This shit about remidisvir is insane. you give people remidisvir when the cytokine storms are off the charts. | 04:05:21 |
| @psychopathx:matrix.org | but it's not clear that HCQ doesn't increase risk by itself | 04:05:33 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | Modern doctors, especially US and western european doctors, are nothing more than glorified technicians. I wouldnt trust most doctors to work on my car even if they had a mechanics degree because most of them arent capable of thinking in terms of systems. | 04:07:43 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | the archetype of the country doctor no longer exists within our medical culture; the doctor who understands the science but also has the creative ability to visualize what it means as a whole. | 04:10:16 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | if you had an elderly family member admitted to the hospital in february and you explained to the doctor why your family member needs hcq + zinc and showed him data on the synergistic MOA of the two drugs, the doc would most likely be pissed off because their ego cant handle it. They wasted over a decade of their life jumping through hoops to become a member of the modern era priestly class. our culture of medicine attracts Type A sociopaths like flies on shit. You occasionally get the high iq empath that gets through hell, only to realize they have no more interest in practicing medicine. its fucking clown world. honk honk. Technicians don't go home to read medical journals at night, artists with passion do. Doctors don't give a fuck about you or their family; they care about their paycheck just like everyone else. At least my mechanic is someone I could have a beer with. | 04:17:11 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | trust medical medical professionals as much as you would a priest taking your child on an overnight camping trip unsupervised | 04:17:51 |
| @ernie:midov.pl | * trust medical professionals as much as you would a priest taking your child on an overnight camping trip unsupervised | 04:18:08 |
