| 22 Jan 2025 |
 sudosaysure | In reply to@bkil:matrix.org
Friends don't do that with friends If you tell your friends that you will need to stop hosting tomorrow because you ran out of money, they will understand and the automation will instantly start syncing data on your node (and on the 2-5x other replicas holding the same data blocks) Otherwise the daily periodic poll will start to notice that something is not right with your node and it will start to relocate the data blocks progressively within a few days (up to a week) before marking your reputation unusable.
Yeah I'm looking for sending it to a pool of strangers (the data will be encrypted anyways)
| 14:31:50 |
| sudosaysure | original post was strangers | 14:31:59 |
 bkil | Similar real world between non-friends are too vulnerable and need too many safegourds for their own sake. | 14:32:04 |
| bkil | * Similar real world between non-friends are too vulnerable and need too many safeguards for their own sake. | 14:32:09 |
| bkil | In reply to@aquarist684:pleco.space
original post was strangers Don't be a stranger! | 14:32:32 |
| sudosaysure | In reply to@bkil:matrix.org
But again, you should not attempt to solve people problems with technological means. That's also a common pitfall of similar projects I've seen it the past. Hence why I would only support a friend to friend operation mode. Anything else is a best effort that's what I was trying to say haha | 14:32:46 |
 james | but they charge $12/TB and backblaze is $6 🤷 Also, backblaze knows their storage. They're pretty famous for their "low cost" custom made SAN systems, and publishing HDD reliability stats | 14:32:47 |
| sudosaysure | * that's what I was trying to say haha, I think we agree | 14:33:16 |
 Funar | I'll have to look at BB again. They were more than rsync last I looked, and I'm grandfathered in at rsync for the time being. | 14:33:28 |
| bkil | In reply to@aquarist684:pleco.space
that's what I was trying to say haha Look. Don't stream your whereabouts (IP) all day long every minute to an unlimited radius of strangers. By also sending blocks incrementally as they are being updated, you are broadcasting possibly telltale information about the encrypted blocks themselves. Unless you always reencrypt the whole backup with a new key every week and retransfer and redistribute the whole thing in the network. Which is an awful waste of resources. In my friend 2 friend system, I'd probably also assign an average supported query/day and MB/day limit as well to combat such abuse. | 14:34:43 |
| Funar | Backblaze does free egress now? well crap... | 14:36:50 |
| james | They have an S3 compatible thing called B2. It's what I use. They also have an unlimited personal backup option for $9, but only for windows because linux people will use too much storage :( | 14:36:59 |
| james | but sync your data to a windows box and you get in-home and off-site storage :D | 14:37:28 |
| bkil | I dream about living in a world where we would not need to rely on companies (especially the oligopoly): friends could sync backups and online storage or run tiny VPS for web hosting for friends directly 💜 | 14:37:51 |
| Funar | I feel like I could really stretch that "unlimited" claim of theirs ;) | 14:38:34 |
 stevejk | all those isos ay | 14:39:07 |
| james | I would love to see a world where everybody gets gigabit fiber and your router is an easy-to-use linux system with point-and-click deployment of all our favorite self-hosted apps (minus the ones we use to "pirate" tv/movies.. those you have to install manually) | 14:39:37 |
| stevejk | Many seasons of isos | 14:39:38 |
| Funar | ISOs that have been lost via conventional means. | 14:41:00 |
| bkil | They aren't "lost" as they were never "yours". You can only own copyleft software & data. | 14:41:37 |
| bkil | All other types of IP you are only assigned a temporary "lease" of source to "peek at" the data (or software). | 14:42:03 |
| bkil | * All other types of IP you are only assigned a temporary "lease" to "peek at" the data (or software). | 14:42:57 |
| Funar | I dunno man, my archive doesn't agree, but I understand what you're saying. :) | 14:43:06 |
| bkil | Whatever I'm not allowed to share I don't have anyway. It converges to 0 over time as its number of copies deteriorate. The only durable for of knowledge and information is what is free | 14:44:01 |
| bkil | I have similarly downloaded the demo of quite a few artists that they have published for a limited duration for free, but I don't own them as I can't it either. Too bad copyleft music only started in 2001 with Open Source. | 14:44:59 |
| bkil | http://openmusic.linuxtag.org/ | 14:45:18 |
| bkil | Not even Creative Commons existed at that time, hence the weird licensing used.... | 14:45:45 |
 grossaffe | In addition to encryption-protecting the data, the data could hypothetically be spread across the different nodes, and only the owner of the data knows which nodes they are and has access, so only the owner of the data could retrieve it even if the cypher was brute-forced. | 14:46:08 |
| bkil | * Whatever I'm not allowed to share I don't have anyway. It converges to 0 over time as its number of copies deteriorate. The only durable form of knowledge and information is what is free | 14:46:26 |
| sudosaysure | In reply to@bkil:matrix.org
I have similarly downloaded the demo of quite a few artists that they have published for a limited duration for free, but I don't own them as I can't it either. Too bad copyleft music only started in 2001 with Open Source. recently I've been jamming to the ManaWorld OST lol | 14:46:45 |
