| 13 Feb 2019 |
 Diarandor | you could add religion stuff to the game. that would start more random discussions :) | 17:20:30 |
| Diarandor | it's another subjective thing | 17:21:22 |
| Diarandor | to eat meat or not to eat. to belive or not to. to be or not to be... | 17:22:16 |
| Diarandor | Redacted or Malformed Event | 17:23:13 |
| Diarandor | your game is perfect to add any kind of philosophical stuff | 17:23:40 |
 Alex | The only way religion and eating meat are related is that they are choices people make. I would think eating meat is more similar to religion because both are the unchallenged status quo.
But yeah I agree it's a good format for philosophical discussion. | 17:24:51 |
| Diarandor | and you could add gods. a pacific one who is vegan, and a god of war who is carnivor. and then mix religion with food ideals XD | 17:24:58 |
| Diarandor | then add temples with cultists who sacrify animals. those would be villains to be stopped | 17:25:48 |
| Diarandor | nah, better to forget about that. i'm too violent and your game is not intended to show so much violence | 17:26:46 |
| Alex | Your ideas sound a lot more similar to the game Agatha Knife that wekhter introduced me to. Check it out | 17:27:35 |
| Diarandor | you could also give criticisms somehow of villains who make bets with rooster fights | 17:27:47 |
| Alex | That's a good idea | 17:28:20 |
| Diarandor | the player needs a goal for motivation. and stopping such villains is one way to motivate | 17:28:44 |
| Alex | I have a new version of the story I've been working on. It's based on my real life experience being an animal liberation activist in the United States. | 17:30:01 |
| Diarandor | another idea, based on how undertale works, would be to allow the hero to make a choice in the end: to stay vegan or not. if he becones carnivor, that would be the bad/sad ending | 17:30:35 |
| Diarandor | she* | 17:30:47 |
| Diarandor | i'm against animal violence too. and that bull stuff in my country is almost as terrible as colliseums of the middle age... but i'm still a carnivor | 17:32:28 |
| Diarandor | (no offense intended) | 17:33:41 |
| Alex | My real life story: I became involved with a animal activist group that I thought was going to fix the world. It turns out that the leader was not the person we thought he was. So we split off to form a new activism group. But then later the new activism group turned against us. Now there is nothing left.
The game is about the alienation you can feel as an activist. We are all supposed to be fighting for the same cause. But the activism groups fragment further and further, destroying themselves.
So the new story of VOADI is about that. Since it happened to me in real life and had a big affect on me, I think it's a story worth sharing. | 17:33:51 |
| Diarandor | that's a terrible experience :O | 17:34:47 |
| Alex | Yeah. Sadly it's the case of most leftist politics in the US (and perhaps the world). Unity is scarce. So it's very difficult to solve problems when we're all against our own friends. | 17:36:18 |
| Diarandor | to fix the world, we should fix human problems first. humans in Africa are starving, there are no rights for free medical stuff in most countries, and any nuclear war could start at any moment... | 17:36:32 |
| Diarandor | i have few hope on humankind for now | 17:37:50 |
| Alex | I'm not sure we are even capable of fixing those problems until we can remain organized without imploding. ^ | 17:37:59 |
| Alex | Imagine if Christopho started censoring everyone and being very aggressive towards the community (aka "Dark Christopho") and then the community created a fork of Solarus. Then everyone in the fork community turned against the founders of the fork and forced them out. Then Solarus stopped development forever because there was no Christopho, and no fork.
This is basically the state of all leftist activism in the US right now.
(Just trying to give a relatable example. In reality Christopho is a humble, wonderful person and maintainer) | 17:42:15 |
| Diarandor | Redacted or Malformed Event | 18:02:02 |
| Diarandor | dont say that. that would be worse than the end of the world! :S | 18:02:31 |
| Alex | Haha sorry, I agree | 18:25:13 |
| Alex | The Solarus community is my last ray of hope | 18:25:26 |
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