| 20 Feb 2025 |
 Florian Duros 🦡 | The french on the screenshot looks like a poor translation | 16:30:39 |
 enigma9o7 | I would suggest the sender check their message in another client. | 16:31:52 |
| enigma9o7 | IF the message only shows wrong in element, report a bug against element. | 16:32:05 |
| enigma9o7 | I'd also confirm it happened in element-desktop (not just the website) incase its a browser extension related. | 16:32:21 |
 Yan | OK thanks guys, it is indeed a translation issue. The sender just told me he had activated translation, and now that he logs in without, he sees the original message! | 16:32:27 |
| enigma9o7 | great, it makes sense then :) | 16:34:44 |
| Yan | You're so right, I didn't even pay attention 🤣 | 16:37:02 |
| Yan | So, since you seem to be very reactive, I have two other questions:
1/ Documentation mentions some option to accept people in a private room without invitation, just using a shared linked.
Is it outdated?
I can't seem to find it in the web or Linux app. | 16:42:17 |
| Yan | 
Download imagen.png | 16:42:22 |
| Yan | It seems people have to be invited, or else using the link leads to error message, like "you are not invited in this room". | 16:43:51 |
 Michael (t3chguy) |
- you either create a public room and don't publish it to any server directory
- or you create a knocking room where anyone joining must be admitted by an admin after they request to join
| 16:47:41 |
| Michael (t3chguy) |
- is in labs under "Enable ask to join"
| 16:47:58 |
| Michael (t3chguy) | *
- is in labs under "Enable ask to join" on develop.element.io
| 16:48:02 |
| Yan | 2/ Every single member of our association has troubles with the red shield "or unable to decrypt" messages...
This is a pain to convince people to adopt Element when we spend so much time understanding the security thing.
Is there a rule of thumb to make it work easily and systematically?
It seems that after logging out and in again, I lost all room history, then I created my backup key, everything came back to normal, but I to restore the backup in another device, don't know why. | 16:48:37 |
|  @rustemdunaev9:matrix.org left the room. | 16:49:53 |
| Florian Duros 🦡 | Every time you logging, a new session is created. After you need to verify your session with another logged devices or using your recovery key | 16:50:43 |
| Florian Duros 🦡 | Otherwise in encrypted room, you'll lose the history | 16:51:02 |
| Florian Duros 🦡 | * Otherwise in encrypted room, you'll lose the history (unable to decrypt previous messages) | 16:51:33 |
| Yan | OK, but even when all my sessions verified, one device could not decrypt messages...
I had to generata a backup key to make it work (read it somewhere on a github issue). | 16:52:46 |
| Yan | I wonder if we won't use a no-crypted room for this, as it is only talks about bikes, nothing critical ;-)
I'm afraid people, especially the older ones, won't ever get a grip on this... | 16:53:56 |
| Yan | Or does it implies other issues I'm not aware of? | 16:55:13 |
| Yan | * Or does it imply other issues I'm not aware of? | 16:55:24 |
| Florian Duros 🦡 | Probably, using an uncrypted room is a better option for this use case | 16:55:45 |
| Florian Duros 🦡 | This device is element web, element android, element android x ? | 16:56:22 |
| Yan | web | 16:56:57 |
| Florian Duros 🦡 | In order to make this room history sharing, you have to create a key storage/backup. User settings -> security & privacy -> secure backup | 16:57:56 |
| Yan | Yes, that is what I did in the end and it worked :-)
But for our association, I'm afraid I'll have to explain this hundreds of times and support every body having troubles, all the computerphobic, etc.....
The non-crypted room seems the way to go for this.
THANK YOU anyway for your great and lightning fast support!
(Are there devs here or only powerusers/fans/support?) | 17:04:11 |
| Florian Duros 🦡 | Both | 17:05:50 |
| Yan | This is awesome! Thank you so much!
Such a great piece of software, I'd be so happy that it could just replace WhatsTheFApp...
Congrats to all devs and support here ❤️ | 17:25:07 |
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