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16 Apr 2021
@boundry:matrix.orgboundry
In reply to @ambiguous_yelp:matrix.org
i just dont think everyone is going to go vegan in time
I don't disagree with that. It will probably take a lot of time who knows what will happen until then. However that doesn't change the reality that creating a vegan majority is the only way. We have no other choice but to strive for that.
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@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpveganism isnt even half the battle though18:40:48
@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpits 14.5% of emissions18:40:53
@boundry:matrix.orgboundryEnvironmentalism is a separate issue it has relevance to veganism in terms of wild animal suffering but it's secondary imo. 18:44:14
@boundry:matrix.orgboundry Ambiguous Yelp: Btw why are you so fatalistic about climate change? 18:45:31
@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpwhat about the people that are already suffering18:45:39
@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpdue to climate induced crop failures18:45:47
@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelp
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Ambiguous Yelp: Btw why are you so fatalistic about climate change?
read IPCC 2018 summary for policy makers
18:46:16
@boundry:matrix.orgboundry Ambiguous Yelp: https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/2/2019/05/SR15_SPM_version_report_LR.pdf Found it will read up later. 18:56:53
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@boundry:matrix.orgboundryI have to read the whole thing to understand. This gives me no intuition without numerical estimates. What does "very high" risk means without numbers it's meaningless to me. Also are there temporal estimates of how much it would take for the global average temperature to rise by certain amount if no mitigative action is done to prevent that.19:11:24
@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpyes there are19:12:27
@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpjust a couple pages above this figure19:12:44
@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpshows the emissions pathway wed have to follow to stay below 2 degrees19:12:56
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@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpand this is only a likely chance which means about a two thirds chance19:14:34
@ambiguous_yelp:matrix.orgAmbiguous Yelpthat it will keep us below 2 degrees19:14:49
@boundry:matrix.orgboundryYeah I will look at that up later I don't want to talk about things that I've not researched. The graphs above it is what I was looking for. The estimate that it would rise by 1.5° if no mitigative action is performed is somewhere in 2030-2050 range looking at the orange line. Now it remains to see what does that entail in terms of damage if it were to happen.19:32:42
@boundry:matrix.orgboundry* Yeah I will look at that up later I don't want to talk about things that I've not researched. The graphs above it is what I was looking for. The estimate that it would rise by 1.5° if no mitigative action is performed is somewhere in 2030-2050 range looking at the orange line. Now it remains to see what does that entail in terms of damage if it were to happen.19:33:36
17 Apr 2021
@alexrelis:matrix.orgalexrelisShould I blend nuts instead of eating them whole? I heard that nuts can damage your teeth.00:40:55
@d-io:matrix.org❄️ D ❄️They sure can if you're really wild about eating them. But if they are soft enough, you should be fine06:59:43
@d-io:matrix.org❄️ D ❄️I think06:59:45
@rjhwelsh:matrix.orgrjhwelsh alexrelis: You could soak them in a liquid to soften them. That said, I usually blend sunflower seeds/flaxseed up and add them to morning oats. 07:20:00
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