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15 Jul 2024
@telegram_1200409489:tchncs.deDon 🐼 (Telegram)* Hi, I'm 2024 passout16:05:05
16 Jul 2024
@telegram_187300612:tchncs.deAтнυℓ (Telegram)
In reply to Tanzeem M B (Telegram)
Which is the best open source alternative to MS PowerBI? Apache Superset?
Seems so
14:59:16
17 Jul 2024
@telegram_187300612:tchncs.deAтнυℓ (Telegram) https://birthday20.openstreetmap.org/ 11:52:05
18 Jul 2024
@telegram_235671675:tchncs.deAji Ahamed (Telegram)
In reply to Athul (Telegram)
https://birthday20.openstreetmap.org/
👍
04:56:56
19 Jul 2024
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldas

For those of you who haven't learnt how evil MS is, this is your ultimate lesson!

They pushed an update and borked windows worldwide... on a Friday!

13:30:05
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldas😛13:30:41
@kskarthik:poddery.comKarthik (కార్తీక్)
In reply to @gokuldas:matrix.org

For those of you who haven't learnt how evil MS is, this is your ultimate lesson!

They pushed an update and borked windows worldwide... on a Friday!

yeah, an entertaining weekend 🍿
13:35:04
@libperry:tchncs.de@libperry:tchncs.deAny chance people will learn from this?14:12:05
@bady:poddery.comPirate Badymakes me remember gnu/linux install fests held in various parts of kerala as a response to the wannacry attacks!14:20:37
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldas
In reply to @libperry:tchncs.de
Any chance people will learn from this?
അങ്ങനെയെങ്ങാനും സംഭവിച്ചാൽ ഞാനൊരു പത്ത് തേങ്ങയുടച്ചേക്കാം എന്റെ പഴവങ്ങാടി മുത്തപ്പാ!
14:25:52
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)
In reply to @gokuldas:matrix.org

For those of you who haven't learnt how evil MS is, this is your ultimate lesson!

They pushed an update and borked windows worldwide... on a Friday!

Windows getting borked was Cloudstrike's fault right
14:33:49
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)* Windows getting borked was Crowdstrike's fault right14:34:34
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)IT dept is kind of overwhelmed. Poor beggers14:35:37
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldas
In reply to @telegram_293342249:tchncs.de
Windows getting borked was Crowdstrike's fault right
Can you imagine a plane crashing because one of the passengers is overweight?
14:37:54
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)
In reply to @gokuldas:matrix.org
Can you imagine a plane crashing because one of the passengers is overweight?
By design antiviruses run with max permission right.
14:39:37
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldas
In reply to @telegram_293342249:tchncs.de
By design antiviruses run with max permission right.
A good kernel design would have isolated that. Regardless, have you heard of them before? When did they become big enough to crash half of the world's IT infrastructure while remaining incapable of properly testing a release before pushing it?
14:41:59
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldasAnyway, the nice thing is that all affected machines are to be rebooted in safe mode for repairs. The second best option recommended by MS is to reboot the system - up to 15 times!14:43:18
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)My company, its parent, its subsidiaries uses it.14:43:24
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)I have no comlaint, no work friday14:43:36
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)* I have no complaint, no work friday14:43:40
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)* I have no complaint, no work friday ❤️14:43:50
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)My company had to announce over PA to get people to stop reporting issues.14:44:31
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldas
In reply to @telegram_293342249:tchncs.de
I have no complaint, no work friday ❤️
Your gain is others pain! Let's spare a moment in the memory of thousands of annoyed sysadmins with a completely ruined weekend!
14:44:55
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldasWhat an odd name for an antivirus! But it suits well in retrospect!14:51:19
@bady:poddery.comPirate Bady
In reply to @telegram_293342249:tchncs.de
Windows getting borked was Crowdstrike's fault right
as a commercial OS and considering their market monopoly can they simply refuse to take any responsibility saying it's a third-party issue?
15:03:15
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram)
In reply to @bady:poddery.com
as a commercial OS and considering their market monopoly can they simply refuse to take any responsibility saying it's a third-party issue?
Imo its for the experts to say. This could very well happen to linux systems too right.
16:05:07
20 Jul 2024
@telegram_293342249:tchncs.deMadhav V (Telegram) Forwarded message from Hacker News
Xkcd: CrowdStrike
Article, Comments
02:03:46
@bady:poddery.comPirate Bady
In reply to @telegram_293342249:tchncs.de
Imo its for the experts to say. This could very well happen to linux systems too right.
yes, but it's more than just microsoft vs linux. the corporate culture is to pay someone so that they can blame them when something goes wrong. this is different from community culture of collective ownership.
03:47:18
@arunm:matrix.org@arunm:matrix.orgI would see this more as a problem of centralisation. It would happen to 'linux' if redhat or Ubuntu become the 'linux'. The free software has an inherent mechanism to counter it to some extent. But doesn't guarantee anything. Policies like anti trust are also to mitigate these kinds of situations. Again technology has changed so much we need to create new frameworks to prevent centralisation of power. So it is Just another free market failure. 04:06:10
@gokuldas:matrix.orggokuldas
In reply to @arunm:matrix.org
I would see this more as a problem of centralisation. It would happen to 'linux' if redhat or Ubuntu become the 'linux'. The free software has an inherent mechanism to counter it to some extent. But doesn't guarantee anything. Policies like anti trust are also to mitigate these kinds of situations. Again technology has changed so much we need to create new frameworks to prevent centralisation of power. So it is Just another free market failure.

I was discussing this in a group as soon as the news came out. Even if a similar rollout had affected Linux, the fact that there are different distributions would prevent a total collapse. Each distribution would push the change at different times (Debian even has a testing phase). So the most leading edge distribution would face the problem and report it - early enough for others to respond.

The previous case of xz backdoor is also interesting in this regard. The backdoor, while serious, didn't affect many distributions.

05:18:54

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