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@fledermaus47:matrix.orgfledermaus47You could hear a pin drop here.13:43:36
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop RoelofsYes, sometimes it's more active, sometimes a bit less. Doesn't really matter, people can chat all they want :)13:45:01
@fledermaus47:matrix.orgfledermaus47So do most folks here use GnuPG or an MUA with OpenPGP built-in, e.g. Tbird?13:46:02
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop RoelofsI use GnuPG (through Kleopatra mostly). Using it to sign ISOs I distribute (like those of Windows 11 when it was in the insider programme). Don't really use it to encrypt anything15:53:28
@fledermaus47:matrix.orgfledermaus47I've heard that GnuPG is used more for signing than encrypting. I've used GPG for encrypted email for years, though lately it's been replaced by Thunderbird OpenPGP and ProtonMail.17:43:41
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop Roelofs

Yea, most places you want to use it for encryption have some kind of support for it (K9 + OpenKeyChain, Thunderbird + Built-in OpenPGP etc.).
Doing encryption manually doesn't make much sense to me for most people.

I still am waiting for Thunderbird to support smartcards out of the box tho :|
that would make that easier... but not much people I know use OpenPGP anyways, which is a shame.

@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop RoelofsTo make matters worse, most people I know think encryption is only used by criminals :| 18:07:53
@fledermaus47:matrix.orgfledermaus47Pretty easy to set Thunderbird to use GPG for secret key operations. Then you can use your smartcard. But I agree out of the box support would be better. Assume it will come sooner or later. Still early days for Tbird OpenPGP.18:19:06
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop Roelofs Thuderbird can use GPG for secrey key operations but it doesn't currently support smartcards for this yet :\ 18:38:13
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop Roelofsiirc, it used RNP which doesn't support smartcards yet18:38:39
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop RoelofsCould be just a Windows thing tho18:39:05
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop RoelofsOh nvm, it appears you need to do extra configs18:40:45
@fledermaus47:matrix.orgfledermaus47Use the config editor and change mail.openpgp.allow_external_gnupg to true. Your public key has to be imported using the Tbird OpenPGP file manager. Set the E2E encryption setting for your account to use external GPG and enter the key id - 16 hexadecimal characters. If GnuPG can use your smartcard, Thunderbird should be able to use it too.18:50:20
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop RoelofsSadly, I don't even get the chance select my key id19:19:09
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@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop Roelofs This is after enabling that flag in the config and adding the bin_64 to my path (as outlined here) 19:20:21
@fledermaus47:matrix.orgfledermaus47I'll revisit my set-up. Been awhile. Assume you are using latest Tbird.20:40:50
7 Oct 2021
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop RoelofsYes, 78.14.something09:58:30
@finlaydag33k:finlaydag33k.nlAroop RoelofsI'm on Windows 10 btw09:58:45
@fledermaus47:matrix.orgfledermaus47I'm currently on 91.2.0 but that shouldn't make any difference. Your version should be capable of using external GnuPG including smartcards. The first thing I notice in your screenshot is that it only refers to S/MIME, not OpenPGP. Here is mine.10:33:49
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@fledermaus47:matrix.orgfledermaus47My guess is that at least one required step is missing. First, does GnuPG work? You mentioned Kleopatra so I assume it does. To make sure open a command prompt and type "gpg --list-secret-keys" without the quotes. Your key should be listed. Then with your smartcard plugged in "gpg --card-status" You should see a list of your smartcard parameters including details of your key. Make sure you have, in fact, enabled external GnuPG in the Thunderbird config editor (located at the end of Preferences-General). Verify that you have imported your public key into Thunderbird using Tools->OpenPGP Key manager. Oh, and for Thunderbird to find your key it must have the email address of the account you are setting up as one of the UIDs. On the E2E page click "add Key". Select external key. You have to manually type in the key ID or copy and paste. 16 (and only 16) hex character.10:47:49

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