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21 Mar 2021 | ||
djkhalis | Call me alice, never said it here but that's my name. Djkhalis is an idiotic pun on djkhaled 🤦♀️ I have seen that ted talk yes!:) have you read any oliver sacks books? I've read them before really understanding that I have mild hallucinations, but provided me a field of curiosities rather than distress when came up to realising it. Just as a reference, I've also got severe chronic depression and general/social anxiety. Idk, just if it comes in handy in any discussions. | 02:54:58 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org |
XD (I'm Bryan, but Kenoi's fine if preferred.)
So insightful, isn't it? :D The way she relates her experiences, it just makes sense. We gotta listen to our brain and body! Only that way can we find balance and recover. ^_^
I must say I have not... :o (Though I have heard of them!) That sounds great! :D It's so important to have/find the right resource for discovering ourselves -- people don't generally realise how vital this is, that we find the right way to really understanding what we're going through, what our body is going through. I'm so glad to hear that you've found it! :) To anyone else reading this who hasn't yet, keep searching, keep watching/listening/reading in accepting (non-ableist) circles, keep looking. The right, intuitive information is out there, just buried under tons of other crap that's no use.
Ditto. The same. :) On the road to recovery from severe chronical depression, and still dealiing with general/social anxiety -- both diagnosed. I've only experienced a hallicunation once, though -- and it was of the smell type (I smelled something that wasn't really there), during my greatest physchological stress and severe autistic burnout. | 03:13:41 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | *
XD (I'm Bryan, but Kenoi's fine if preferred.)
So insightful, isn't it? :D The way she relates her experiences, it just makes sense. We gotta listen to our brain and body! Only that way can we find balance and recover. ^_^
I must say I have not... :o (Though I have heard of them!) That sounds great! :D It's so important to have/find the right resource for discovering ourselves -- people don't generally realise how vital this is, that we find the right way to really understanding what we're going through, what our body is going through. I'm so glad to hear that you've found it! :) To anyone else reading this who hasn't yet, keep searching, keep watching/listening/reading in accepting (non-ableist) circles, keep looking. The right, intuitive information is out there, just buried under tons of other crap that's no use.
Ditto. The same. :) On the road to recovery from severe chronical depression, and still dealiing with general/social anxiety -- both diagnosed. I've only experienced a hallicunation once, though -- and it was of the smell type (I smelled something that wasn't really there) -- during my greatest phychological stress and severe autistic burnout. | 03:16:53 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | *
XD (I'm Bryan, but Kenoi's fine if preferred.)
So insightful, isn't it? :D The way she relates her experiences, it just makes sense. We gotta listen to our brain and body! Only that way can we find balance and recover. ^_^
I must say I have not... :o (Though I have heard of them!) That sounds great! :D It's so important to have/find the right resource for discovering ourselves -- people don't generally realise how vital this is, that we find the right way to really understanding what we're going through, what our body is going through. I'm so glad to hear that you've found it! :) To anyone else reading this who hasn't yet, keep searching, keep watching/listening/reading in accepting (non-ableist) circles, keep looking. The right, intuitive information is out there, just buried under tons of other crap that's no use.
Ditto. The same. :) On the road to recovery from severe chronical depression, and still dealing with general/social anxiety -- both diagnosed. I've only experienced a hallicunation once, though -- and it was of the smell type (I smelled something that wasn't really there) -- during my greatest phychological stress and severe autistic burnout. | 03:18:39 |
djkhalis | I'm also diagnosed with depression and anxiety, but all that helped with was a therapy referral, which I was lucky with because I loved my counsellor. Also meds, although the anxiety ones don't do much. They're basically a high blood pressure meds but lower concentration 🤷♀️ You seem very well spoken, I really think you'd like those O.S. books and how they're written. Don't mind me asking and don't answer if you're not comfortable, but what do you do as a career? | 03:20:01 |
djkhalis | // just as an fyi, I tend to share openly anything about me to anyone, and I did it most my life so its kind of ingrained in my brain. I sometimes ask things that might be too personal and not realise it, please let me know if I ever put you in an uncomfortable position,it's never ever my intention. Sorry for the disclaimer hahah | 03:22:24 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | [Not to worry. Sorry, I'm just taking my sweet ol' time answering... XD :P] | 03:27:44 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | * [Not to worry. Sorry, I'm just taking my sweet ol' time answering... XD :P I'll let you know if there's anything I don't feel comfortable sharing. ^_^] | 03:28:28 |
djkhalis | Nono that's why texting is so good, there's no rush to blurt out words | 03:29:54 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org |
From personal experience, I can tell you that meditation (quiet time for your mind, and in nature), balanced eating, outdoor exercise, and a low stress lifestyle can do so much more than any medication can. I actually don't use medications as a long-term solution. I know that some people do, but personally I've found that unsustainable (both in terms of health and in terms of spending). For me, medications are good for jolting thing back if things really start to spin out of control, but in my recovery I am trying to make sure that that doesn't happen. So I'm actually aiming away from medications -- if that makes sense. A truly balanced lifestyle is what leads to good health in the long run.
Hahhaha! Currently? Nothing. :P My private company collapsed when I was going through my most severe autistic burnout, and I lost everything: money, career, company, health, family -- all of it! It's a time of my life I don't care to revisit. I am now on temporary jobless government support, and slowly looking to build my life again from scratch. I used to work for a university, in the technical, web department. I am also a writer and an anthroposophist by SI/passion, and have an interest in languages -- that's probably what you're picking up here. ^_^ | 03:37:43 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | *
From personal experience, I can tell you that meditation (quiet time for your mind, and in nature), balanced eating, outdoor exercise, and a low stress lifestyle can do so much more than any medication can. I actually don't use medications as a long-term solution. I know that some people do, but personally I've found that unsustainable (both in terms of health and in terms of spending). For me, medications are good for jolting thing back if things really start to spin out of control, but in my recovery I am trying to make sure that that doesn't happen. So I'm actually aiming away from medications -- if that makes sense. A truly balanced lifestyle is what leads to good health in the long run.
Hahhaha! Currently? Nothing. >.< :P My private company collapsed when I was going through my most severe autistic burnout, and I lost everything: money, career, company, health, family -- all of it! It's a time of my life I don't care to revisit. I am now on temporary jobless government support, and slowly looking to build my life again from scratch. I used to work for a university, in the technical, web department. I am also a writer and an anthroposophist by SI/passion, and have an interest in languages -- that's probably what you're picking up here. ^_^ | 03:38:07 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | *
From personal experience, I can tell you that meditation (quiet time for your mind, and in nature), balanced eating, outdoor exercise, and a low stress lifestyle can do so much more than any medication can. I actually don't use medications as a long-term solution. I know that some people do, but personally I've found that unsustainable (both in terms of health and in terms of spending). For me, medications are good for jolting thing back if things really start to spin out of control, but in my recovery I am trying to make sure that that doesn't happen. So I'm actually aiming away from medications -- if that makes sense. A truly balanced lifestyle is what leads to good health in the long run.
Hahhaha! Currently? Nothing. >.< :P My private company collapsed when I was going through my most severe autistic burnout, and I lost everything: money, career, company, health, family -- all of it! That happened 4 years ago. It's a time of my life I don't care to revisit... I am now on temporary jobless government support, and slowly looking to build my life again from scratch. I used to work for a university, in the technical, web department. I am also a writer and an anthroposophist by SI/passion, and have an interest in languages -- that's probably what you're picking up here. ^_^ | 03:39:48 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | *
From personal experience, I can tell you that meditation (quiet time for your mind, and in nature), balanced eating, outdoor exercise, and a low stress lifestyle can do so much more than any medication can. I actually don't use medications as a long-term solution. I know that some people do, but personally I've found that unsustainable (both in terms of health and in terms of spending). For me, medications are good for jolting thing back if things really start to spin out of control, but in my recovery I am trying to make sure that that doesn't happen. So I'm actually aiming away from medications -- if that makes sense. Carefully listening to your body, and a truly balanced lifestyle is what leads to good health in the long run.
Hahhaha! Currently? Nothing. >.< :P My private company collapsed when I was going through my most severe autistic burnout, and I lost everything: money, career, company, health, family -- all of it! That happened 4 years ago. It's a time of my life I don't care to revisit... I am now on temporary jobless government support, and slowly looking to build my life again from scratch. I used to work for a university, in the technical, web department. I am also a writer and an anthroposophist by SI/passion, and have an interest in languages -- that's probably what you're picking up here. ^_^ | 03:42:03 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | *
From personal experience, I can tell you that meditation (quiet time for your mind, and in nature), balanced eating, keeping well hydrated, outdoor exercise, and a low stress lifestyle can do so much more than any medication can. I actually don't use medications as a long-term solution. I know that some people do, but personally I've found that unsustainable (both in terms of health and in terms of spending). For me, medications are good for jolting thing back if things really start to spin out of control, but in my recovery I am trying to make sure that that doesn't happen. So I'm actually aiming away from medications -- if that makes sense. Carefully listening to your body, and a truly balanced lifestyle is what leads to good health in the long run.
Hahhaha! Currently? Nothing. >.< :P My private company collapsed when I was going through my most severe autistic burnout, and I lost everything: money, career, company, health, family -- all of it! That happened 4 years ago. It's a time of my life I don't care to revisit... I am now on temporary jobless government support, and slowly looking to build my life again from scratch. I used to work for a university, in the technical, web department. I am also a writer and an anthroposophist by SI/passion, and have an interest in languages -- that's probably what you're picking up here. ^_^ | 03:44:53 |
djkhalis | I totally agree with your view on using medication to get back on track! It was rough finding the right one but worth it in the long run. I managed to get off it, using pretty much what you've said, exercise, good food and also good cbt therapy. I've had to get back on it after my father died suddenly in front of me last year. Anyway, I am currently at a point in which I need to find anything to help stabilise me so I could function well enough to even process how I can progress. But the goal looks the same as you've described it:) I've had a glimpse of it after therapy, it was wonderful, I can't wait to get there again 😌 | 03:48:00 |
djkhalis | Regarding to your career -- you really seem to have gone through so much!! At the same time, you also seemed to have accomplished a lot as well so congrats on that! | 03:49:34 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org |
Easy. ^_^ It takes time. Nature's natural cycle (recovery) is not as fast-moving as human society. It works at its own pace. Only by realising and respecting that did I get to this point in my recovery. In a way that acceptance is the recovery -- that nature has its own rules, its own pace, and that imbalanced human society has little understanding of this. | 03:51:59 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | In reply to @djkhalis:matrix.org Thank you... Indeed... 'Been through a lot... Sometimes I think way too much for a lifetime... I've been through some very, VERY dark times -- moments that very few people have lived through in this world... But I guess I'm living proof that it is possible to make it through if you learn to accept and listen to your body, to respect nature, and to give things due time (to be patient, working on your healing whenever you can). It's not easy, but if you learn to work with nature, not against her, it's not unrewarding either. There is joy, comfort, and peace to be found, and life's cycle goes on. There is actually purpose to be found in that natural cycle, in being a part of that larger miracle that humankind still knows so little about. For example, that trees can both feel and talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWOqeyPIVRo | 03:59:51 |
djkhalis | Yess, ohmy god it's like you're speaking my language hahah! Yea I've seen the video and I know exactly what you mean! Balance is key, balance is a sort of god, guiding everything seamlessly through life | 04:03:43 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | Exactly! The natural balance that gives and aids life. ^_^ | 04:04:38 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | It's also what helps us heal. ^_^ | 04:05:11 |
djkhalis | It might be a far reach but oh well, worth a shot. I kind of "see" the life in, well, everything that's alive, coming from a "pool". Like every animal or plant is a manifestation of that life force, then it disintegrates, goes back in the pool, mixes up and arises again. Like a volcano that's boiling, but instead of big ouchie lava-blobs, you'd have plants and insects and humans and cats and any lifeform you could think of come out of it. I hope it makes any sense hahah but that's how I make sense of it all. I was jusy curious if it resounded in any way with you too | 04:10:21 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | Yes!! Absolutely! You have the right idea! :D That kind of exactly what it is. Everything feeds life and has a working balance, it all works together. It is almost like a theoretical/metaphysical pool from which all life stems and to where all life goes when individual life ends. Have you seen any of Miyazaki's films? | 04:24:08 |
djkhalis | Made me so happy I could tear up hahah!! It means so much to me to share this feeling/view with somebody else. Oh and yes I jave seen his films:) not all of them, I'm sure | 04:27:22 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | In reply to @djkhalis:matrix.org The concept surrounding that "circle of life" is not all too wrong in that the living balance is maintained between the different living creatures in exactly such a way: Fungi and bacteria create life for plants, which provide life to animals, which provide life to other animals, which provide life to fungi and bacteria (when their life ends), and the cycle repeats. Except that it isn't as simple as a single cycle -- there are many such endless loops, as long as nature's balance stays intact and life is allowed to flourish. In all this, the individual is not actually all that important as the living balance -- this is the part that gets most people, because we are taught an ego-centric view from a young age. The individual is important, but not more important than all of life, the living balance. | 04:32:27 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | In reply to @djkhalis:matrix.orgThe same, Alice!! :DD We definitely need to keep in touch! <33 | 04:33:15 |
djkhalis | I believe so much in the balance of this cycle and see it as essential in not only ours but in life-forms-as-we-know-them's survival that I think it really is my "religion". Like, for me, it covers most aspects of a traditional religion. It sounds kind of silly but it gives me clarity, and so much happiness. If I have plants that dry up for any reason I keep them until they're literally a few sticks with some dirt underneath. And I always leave the fallen leaves of any of the plants on their soil, I love so much to see how life thrives on itself :) I love it in every stage | 04:40:06 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | Download Plant Movement Over Three Days.mp4 | 05:02:29 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | (In case anyone thought that plants don't move. :3) | 05:02:40 |
@kenoiyan:matrix.org | * Yes!! Absolutely! You have the right idea! :D That's kind of exactly what it is. Everything feeds life and has a working balance, it all works together. It is almost like a theoretical/metaphysical pool from which all life stems and to where all life goes when individual life ends. Have you seen any of Miyazaki's films? | 06:00:37 |