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17 Aug 2021
@jez:petrichor.meJez (he/him)If you finally got some closure on whether or not he was a nazi, what would that information enable you to do 21:18:01
@jez:petrichor.meJez (he/him)* If you finally got some closure on whether or not he was a nazi, what would that information enable you to do? 21:18:10
18 Aug 2021
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19 Aug 2021
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org
In reply to @ijyx:matrix.org
The "Was asperger a nazi" discussion always ends in a discussion about semantics tbh.

Fact is that there's at least two children we know of who were referred to Spiegelgrund by him.

Whether or not that makes him a nazi, i dont know, but it definitely doesnt make him a good person
There are no semantics or any confusing details of any sort. Hans Asperger definitely sent more than two very low functioning children to the "Am Spiegelgrund" children's ward that was presented to medical practitioners as a psychiatric institute for children. He and others had no idea that it had become a Euthanasia clinic for the severely disabled and children of political dissidents.
Children and adults today are still presented to psychiatric clinics when the problem is so severe that it needs immediate attention. So if anything, this makes Hans Asperger a good person by modern standards.
12:00:22
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org
In reply to @jez:petrichor.me
It's also not a very useful argument to have since he died over 40 years ago and understanding of autism has moved on a lot since then
True, obviously the History is still very important though.
12:02:14
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org

If you finally got some closure on whether or not he was a nazi, what would that information enable you to do?

It would enable you re-write the whole history of the universe as a black and white Nazis vs non-nazis paradigm in order to further your own political agenda and infinite victimhood whilst conveniently hiding everything evil done by anyone else.

12:06:49
20 Aug 2021
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org *

If you finally got some closure on whether or not he was a nazi, what would that information enable you to do?

It would enable you to re-write the whole history of the universe as a black and white Nazis vs non-nazis paradigm in order to further your own political agenda and infinite victimhood whilst conveniently hiding everything evil done by anyone else.

03:25:13
21 Aug 2021
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org

As for actual modern developments on understanding ASD. Very little has actually changed in the last 50 years. I think people are confusing the social acceptance of autistic people with
the clinical and scientific understanding of autistic people.
Recent changes include -

  1. More people being diagnosed because of the greater availability of testing. ( Also very high functioning Autism is now considered autism rather than normal character traits. )
  2. Asperger's as a category of autism has been removed ( There is no good reason for that, too many reasons to list, basically just DSM politics and power flexing. )
  3. Beautiful studies that combine brain scans / mental aptitude tests and life history together to see how brain development differs between high functioning ASD / low functioning ASD / neurotypicals .
05:31:41
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgi heard there was a recent study that autistic people communicate with each other as well as nt people do05:39:45
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgi only recently started thinking i was part of this but i notice i like autistic type people more 05:40:40
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgthere's a neighbor who's an autistic furry author, i give him rides to work sometimes when i see him, he keeps describing things that apply to me05:43:45
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orghe wanted me to go to some furry meetup in some guy's garage05:44:07
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgno thank you.05:44:12
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgi was like, are there hot chicks? and he was very like... unclear05:45:08
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.orgThe only possible scenario for that being true is very high functioning ASD people communicating via text online compared to the average person. If you have zero communication issues with other people the chances of you being on the ASD spectrum are very low....05:45:28
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgi'm very social but i hate it, i feel like it's learned05:45:53
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orglike i just ditched an event with an old friend tonight05:46:14
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.orgWell it isn't learned unless you are missing the wiring for it. Thus autism05:46:46
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgno you can fake it05:47:37
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgi forget what they call it05:47:44
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.orgautistics certainly do fake it when they have no other choice and are higher functioning.05:49:05
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.orgSocial interaction feels alien to you. Hate social interaction( especially in person ), carefully mimic or replicate the social cues of other people consciously. Classic ASD.05:54:11
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org
In reply to @corbenic:matrix.org
i was like, are there hot chicks? and he was very like... unclear
You probably already know this, but Well over 50% of the furry fandom are gay/bi men and most of the female furaffinity accounts are
also gay/bi men or trans women. So that furry guy probably thought you were hot.
05:57:39
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgfigured06:04:55
@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.org@huntsmoodddn489:matrix.orgHaha, sorry when I read that story I laughed so hard, Yeah, be wary of the garage dude.06:06:09
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orglike what percentage of trans women and are the single?06:06:18
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.org * like what percentage of trans women and are they single?06:06:28
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgi'm not expecting hot people tho 06:06:39
@corbenic:matrix.org@corbenic:matrix.orgthe hot ones don't go to weird garages i'd assume06:07:16

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