| 21 Jul 2021 |
 @corbenic:matrix.org | i have a history of ADHD but the H sort of calmed down with age | 18:25:30 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | i'm starting to realize i check all the boxes | 18:26:03 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | self-dx meaning self-diagnosed? | 18:41:13 |
 Jez (he/him) | In reply to @corbenic:matrix.org
self-dx meaning self-diagnosed? yup, | 19:43:26 |
| Jez (he/him) | In reply to @corbenic:matrix.org
self-dx meaning self-diagnosed? * yup, that's right | 19:43:29 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | i understand the reason for accepting that, but what led the community to that ? | 19:50:31 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | i'm assuming historical mis-diagnosis and such | 19:50:57 |
| Jez (he/him) | I don't know about this community in particular but it's pretty universal in most autistic communities I'm in | 19:55:41 |
| Jez (he/him) | In reply to @corbenic:matrix.org
i'm assuming historical mis-diagnosis and such This plus the general difficulty of obtaining a diagnosis in many countries | 19:56:24 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | i didn't consider that, thanks | 20:01:15 |
| Jez (he/him) | I had a link to an article that explains it better than I can, let me see if I can find it... | 20:12:11 |
| Jez (he/him) | This is a pretty good summary of the issues https://autistictic.com/2020/08/10/autism-self-diagnosis-yay-or-nay/ | 20:18:53 |
| Jez (he/him) | Both for and against | 20:19:08 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | so like i heard of this Friend Degradation thing | 20:51:26 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | like you don't hang with someone forever and don't notice | 20:51:54 |
| 25 Jul 2021 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | is that a thing | 04:26:34 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | * is that a thing, like how's it work | 04:26:35 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | and then you hit them up after like years not realizing they might not give a shit anymore | 04:26:35 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | this homie from down the street that i give rides to work sometimes talked about it but we didn't have much time | 04:27:14 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | he's a furry and a poet too, weird situation bout how we kept running into each other lol | 04:28:16 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | i was just drinking at a bowling alley bar doing kareoke and met him, we were partying for a while before i relized the woman i'm chatting with sometimes is his mom | 04:33:01 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | drank a weird drink, peach shnapps and soda water, really good tho | 04:33:23 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | then like months later i saw him working at the fast food place near me and that he lived on my block | 04:34:00 |
| @corbenic:matrix.org | also what's up with identity-first language? i thought it was the other way around? | 05:53:45 |
| 26 Jul 2021 |
| Jez (he/him) | corbenic: what do you mean about identity-first language? | 07:42:50 |
 moved to ijyx:cat.casa | identity first language means calling me an "autistic person" instead of a "person with autism" (person-first language)
Most autistic people prefer IFL bc PFL is stigmatizing and inaccurate
Stigmatizing bc it portrays autism as a bad thing that we need to be separated from. Many NTs who use PFL also say that the word "person" needs to come first for emphasis, implying that they need to remind themselves that we are people.
"Person with autism" gives me the same vibes as it would to call me a "person with queerness"
Inaccurate because if you're autistic, autism is inherently a part of you. I cant think of one aspect thats part of my sense of identity (personality, relationships, interests etc) that is *not* directly influenced by my autism. Autism isnt something i "have" but part of who i am.
Attempting to separate me from my literal brain structure seems ridiculous | 07:50:45 |
| moved to ijyx:cat.casa | * identity first language means calling me an "autistic person" instead of a "person with autism" (person-first language)
Most autistic people prefer IFL bc PFL is stigmatizing and inaccurate
Stigmatizing bc it portrays autism as a bad thing that we need to be separated from. Many NTs who use PFL also say that the word "person" needs to come first for emphasis, implying that they need to remind themselves that we are people.
"Person with autism" gives me the same vibes as it would to call me a "person with queerness". (I'm queer, I don't "have queerness")
Inaccurate because if you're autistic, autism is inherently a part of you. I cant think of one aspect thats part of my sense of identity (personality, relationships, interests etc) that is *not* directly influenced by my autism. Autism isnt something i "have" but part of who i am.
Attempting to separate me from my literal brain structure seems ridiculous | 07:51:33 |
| 29 Jul 2021 |
|  @alpqn7n3q:kde.org joined the room. | 05:33:51 |
| @alpqn7n3q:kde.org | Redacted or Malformed Event | 05:34:44 |
| @alpqn7n3q:kde.org left the room. | 05:36:24 |
