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3 Nov 2019
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13 Nov 2019
17:44:46@tg:disroot.orgTGhow is it important?
17:45:02@tg:disroot.orgTG"fraud & error"?
19:25:17@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGR TG: If you talk about the article I have mentioned, it talks about longevity of humans and their habits in the places they live in.
19:26:02@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGRIt is interesting at least for many of us.
19:29:28@tg:disroot.orgTGsure but how can we come to any conclusions about such things based on dubious data sources?
19:32:02@tg:disroot.orgTGnonetheless it is interesting to consider different ways of life
19:33:50@tg:disroot.orgTG in any case a good starting point is to gtfo from the city which I'm gonna do real soon
19:34:14@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGRYou mean sources are dubious because neutrality is disputed?
19:35:18@tg:disroot.orgTGI mean the points from the criticism section in that article
19:41:14@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGRI found many of the proposed habits to be good enough according to other info which I found during my life. That's why I posted that. For example many people who I trust told me that 1-2 glasses of organic red wine a day is good for our health. Stress reduction and regular physical activity too, etc...
19:44:30@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGRThis criticism doesn't prove that there are not many centenarians there: it just mentions a lack of birth certificates in a region.
19:48:23@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGRThe info about Icaria, Greece is known to many people in my life and talks about a more happy and long life with healthy nutrition and frequent dancing. :)
20:05:11@_oftc_tg:matrix.orgtg sure i agree that there's a lot to learn from these kind of places
17 Nov 2019
13:11:58@realitygaps:chat.weho.strealitygapsrecent research seems to show that 'One bottle of wine per week is associated with an increased absolute lifetime cancer risk for non-smokers of 1% for men and 1.4% for women.' so id take that advice with a grain of salt
13:13:30@realitygaps:chat.weho.strealitygapsalthough red wine has antioxidants and polyphenols
13:14:06@realitygaps:chat.weho.strealitygapsgut health benefits seem to be for around 1 glass a week
13:14:35@realitygaps:chat.weho.strealitygapsalso some pointed to the fact that red wine drinkers are likely to be more affluent and healthier too
13:25:41@_oftc_dreamer:matrix.orgdreamer PantelicGR: 2 glasses of alcohol a day is considered 'problem drinking' in .nl
13:25:46@_oftc_dreamer:matrix.orgdreamer I tried it for a month (2 or more consumptions a day) and gained one kg a week >_<
13:25:49@_oftc_dreamer:matrix.orgdreamer(still trying to get rid of that extra weight ..)
18 Nov 2019
09:52:30@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGR realitygaps: I'm talking about red wine, not wine in general.
And the info that I know came from both articles and people in real life.
So it's a controversial issue like many out there.
09:52:41@realitygaps:chat.weho.strealitygapsi meant red wine also
09:52:44@realitygaps:chat.weho.strealitygapsnot wine in general
09:52:50@realitygaps:chat.weho.strealitygapsive read a bunch of studies
09:52:59@realitygaps:chat.weho.strealitygapspeople are generally anecdotal and not such reliable indicators imho
09:56:10@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGR dreamer: If it doesn't work for you, then you may avoid it of course.
Some other people have got allergies in wine so they avoid it too.
10:30:43@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGRSome other foods or habits that I find them useful from this article are: engagement in family and social life with people that respect each other, the majority of food consumed to be derived from plants, eating legumes, nuts, whole grains, turmeric, moderate caloric intake, stress reduction, sunshine, no smoking, constant moderate physical activity (jogging, swimming, bicycling etc). Personally I would add: searching for which standards to follow for each subject, life meaning, critical thinking and positive thinking (to find ways to be more optimistic), a variety of organic foods on a daily basis and specifically: dairy, fish, fruits, vegetables and spices.
14:37:44@pantelicgr:matrix.orgPantelicGRAlso honey, green tea etc.

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