 | Atlas Island | 399 Members |
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| Atlas Island | 399 Members |
| 3 Servers |
| Sender | Message | Time |
|---|---|---|
| 19 Dec 2024 | ||
 Red Fuchs | We don't live on the ocean because it's easy. because it's difficult. it emphasises freedom and the individual as the sovereign of himself. | 14:26:17 |
 Mason | In reply to Red FuchsAn engineering expression for boat design is - mobility, stability, and affordability: choose two of the three. 1) Mobility and Stability - SWATH (not very affordable) 2) Mobility and Price - Boat (Catamaran is the most stable but still not comparable to SWATH or Spar) 3) Stability and Price - Spar (can be cheap but not very mobile) | 14:16:54 |
| Mason | The other two are valid paths to pursue and I would encourage others to do so. Option 3 is covered by Ocean Builders and ArkPad so if someone else tackles option 1 that would be great! | 14:19:52 |
| Red Fuchs | copy that | 14:23:02 |
 Robin Vaz | Redacted or Malformed Event | 15:05:25 |
| Red Fuchs | * We don't live on the ocean because it's easy. because it's hard/difficult. it emphasises freedom and the individual as the sovereign of himself. | 15:55:10 |
 MJ | In reply to MasonWhat are the blocking points of the Ark of Liberty at the moment? Manufacturing supplier; money; time; etc? | 16:51:12 |
| Mason | I'm also thinking of releasing two "Trim Levels." The basic trim will likely be called the "Coastal" package which will be cheaper and well suited for coastal cruising and living. It will still be fully self-sufficient (CE A rated in terms of the hull, solar power, water maker, Starlink, etc...) but may not be as well suited for long passages alone. The more expensive trim will likely be called the "Offshore" package which will include everything in the Coastal package as well as other items for longer passages (diesel generators, radar, perhaps sonar, possibly a bigger battery pack, etc...). Both will be based on the same hull and thus any Coastal could be upgraded to Offshore by adding the additional equipment. | 17:22:25 |
| Mason | One of the most recent changes was to standardize dimensions to make things more consistent and easier to build/customize. The real goal is to provide an open source design that you can either purchase from me fully assembled or customize and build yourself. After many iterations, I think we're approaching the point where this can be built by anyone with access to CNC cutting of aluminum sheet and welding capability. | 17:16:48 |
| Mason |  Download image.jpeg | 17:15:22 |
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| Mason |  Download image.jpeg | 17:12:13 |
| Mason | Happy to hear any thoughts and/or feedback! | 17:23:06 |
| Mason | In reply to MJThere aren't really blocking points. Engineering just always takes longer than expected and I'm a bit of a perfectionist. We've made huge progress and I plan to release the V1 plans very soon! The problem is that whenever I think it's almost ready, I find new ways to improve it. We've had a working design for the structure for 5+ months but I keep refining it. I've also spec'd out most electrical components. | 17:10:41 |
| Mason | Slightly outdated midship section | 17:15:22 |
| Mason | This is the revised layout (waiting on the PDF version) | 17:13:16 |
| Mason | This is the current 3D model (it's a Rhino file which will be published online) | 17:12:13 |
| Red Fuchs | not so relevant for me, I loathe the bureaucracy in part because I wouldn't go into inland waters with a boat. For example, many people say that Switzerland is a very free country, but in this country it is forbidden at the highest level to live on the water on a boat, even Germany has fewer problems with this... | 17:39:21 |
| Red Fuchs | I really see and appreciate this work. i think i've already mentioned it... semi-transparent pv would be ideal here, allowing enough daylight into the unit. | 17:26:40 |
| Red Fuchs | a I understand that for many inland waterways you have a maximum height... because of the bridges | 17:35:41 |
| Red Fuchs | I'm already thinking about a double-decker with a PV canopy I would have to take a closer look at the plan, what is the load capacity now? | 17:29:14 |
| Mason | Yes. I designed around those parameters already. Adding a second deck wouldn't be possible while still being able to pass under most bridges. As well, for solar boat, it likely makes sense to go wider and/or longer if you want more space in order to also increase the solar space and maximize the power to weight ratio. The width was also chosen for inland waterway dimensions and the length based on ideal catamaran ratios using that width. | 17:39:29 |
| Mason | The plan is for most space to be enclosed and with an aluminum roof the panels won't be what is blocking the light. That being said, as can be seen in the 3D model, there are large windows along 3 sides, many of which can open fully. Daylight and air flow shouldn't be an issue (will also include electric lighting and mechanical ventilation to residential standards of course). | 17:28:21 |
| Mason | It's approximately 30 tons. Still need to confirm once all the furniture is spec'd. I also considered an upper deck but that would significantly limit access to inland waterways. The goal is to be as mobile as possible. I'm even planning for a collapsible mast for radar/lights in order to facilitate getting under most bridges. As well, windage needs to be considered. The goal is to use no more than 10kw at cruising speed and the more windage area the more difficult that becomes in adverse conditions. | 17:33:00 |
| Mason | I also want to be free of bureaucracy. That being said, when you are simply transiting as a digital nomad in a live-aboard vessel, many rules that apply to residents aren't applicable to you. | 17:40:27 |
| Mason | I'm not aiming for that. This will be CE Class A certified so it can be registered anywhere and flagged for use in the open oceans. | 17:47:39 |
| Red Fuchs | 👌 | 17:50:46 |
| Red Fuchs | In reply to MasonI would have to look it up again; as far as I know, boats with max 12 metres and 15 hp are exempt from most regulations in coastal areas without a boating licence or even registration | 17:46:02 |
| Mason | Of course! All of the materials will be specified. | 18:28:00 |
| Mason | The plan is to contract multiple shipyards around the world and use the one closest to each customer. Since it's aluminum, it won't require any moulds and thus there shouldn't be many economies of scale (until we reach mass production). | 18:23:38 |