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23 Aug 2022 | ||
mbacoinin | * I have no idea to be honest but I can imagine that it is possible with some form of hierachy of keys, with the creator having the root/master key and being able to cancel entire branches or create new publishable rights to a subset of existing keys. Note that this is just the imagination of someone who is still covering the discrete elliptic curve math so might be not possible. Though I never got the feeling from the team members that I have attempted to discuss the idea that it is impossible... | 02:30:05 |
mbacoinin | xludx was kind of positive that it is possible IIRC... It was quite some time ago but I think there should be some text on Discord regarding that discussion with him | 02:32:30 |
alexanderpart | I really dont like having to discuss features with them, it sounds like they are given a boulder to push up a mountain and trying to cover these concerns is just heaping on more dirt, but i feel if these things happened it would put such a strain on everyone. | 02:33:48 |
alexanderpart | I honestly dont know how they have kept faith all this time when their following is just handful of people and there is no guarantee it will increase anytime soon. | 02:34:37 |
mbacoinin | To be honest the faster it happens the better. The concept of community market really annoys me | 02:34:41 |
mbacoinin | * To be honest the faster it happens the better. The current concept of community market really annoys me | 02:35:56 |
mbacoinin | On the other hand, a community market that is based on some curated list of storefront invitation displayed as single community market is something that I can see not only working but also incentivising the curators either single entity or some community | 02:37:25 |
mbacoinin | * On the other hand, a community market that is based on some curated list of storefront invitations displayed as single community market on PD is something that I can see not only working but also incentivising the curators either single entity or some community to promote/moderate those | 02:38:00 |
alexanderpart | I do agree with arnold on that point, new users will want to see something when they start PM for the first time without having to do a whole lot, and short of curated lists openmarket is the best we have for now. | 02:38:55 |
mbacoinin | and ofcourse get some ROI for their time/effort | 02:38:59 |
mbacoinin | In reply to @alexanderpart:matrix.orgWell if the Particl community manages to create and maintain such a list, I cant see why it can not be an option for the users to fetch it in addition to the option to join the Open Market. What I doubt is that the Open Market will survive for long. If anyone decides to screw it atm they can | 02:41:26 |
mbacoinin | You don't need CP, you can simply spam vile and vomit inducing listings...and game over | 02:42:20 |
mbacoinin | I am old enough to remember rotten.com (I wish I had never seen that webpage)... | 02:43:08 |
alexanderpart | I hope they can provide us some marketing materials aside from the website (which as an avid researcher of crypto projects i must groan at every time i open one, they are so vague and typical). The basicswap infographic they provided a while ago was a little underwhelming and didnt do much to highlight its advantages over similar dex's. Its little visually concise things like infographics that are easily spread that will gain the attention of the passerby. If crz ever gets those graphics to me a mad escrow gif/video would go a long way generating interest. | 02:44:47 |
alexanderpart | In reply to @mike.bacoinin:matrix.orgYou remember that photo called maggotted? | 02:45:13 |
alexanderpart | Just awful. | 02:45:26 |
alexanderpart | The 90's internet, no holds barred whatever goes. Totally incompatible with the santized new internet. But thats the way the cookie crumbles. | 02:48:54 |
mbacoinin | In reply to @alexanderpart:matrix.orgAs far as I know dros, I am pretty sure that he is sitting on a huge pile of very interesting material. It seems that they are not in a hurry or at least much less than the community. I have seen some of dros's work and its very well thought and properly decomposed according to the different users needs and what the PM can do for them | 02:48:57 |
rutherford | <O_S_Layman@telegram>: | 02:50:04 |
rutherford | Download file_10794.oga.ogg | 02:50:05 |
alexanderpart | I wonder why they dont seem in a hurry. Technically there is no rush as theres not much competition, but i do see maybe that alphabay might produce something usable by 2024 (if they are not arrested), and even should the project be a blunder, attempting to ferry users onto it could set a bad precedent and bias against decommerce. | 02:53:32 |
alexanderpart | Or maybe they do produce something usable, even if its design is atrocious, and capture marketshare like no one else can. | 02:54:24 |
mbacoinin | Long story short, I think that the marketing is in a very good hands. Soon the team will have secured their funding for a year (they will get ~3% of the total supply), some very important pieces of the puzzle in place so maybe they will start making some moves in the marketing direction and probably even more importantly turn towards investors... | 02:55:03 |
rutherford | <btmr@discord>:
The investor bit is understandable (the funding model gambled on part price appreciation that never happened) but also a predicament: how can you stay decentralized and independent if you have professional investors? I agree that we need it because unlike alex, I do believe there is a rush. It's taken ages in tech time to get where we are today. | 12:27:45 |
24 Aug 2022 | ||
alexanderpart | In reply to @rutherford:matrix.orgI never said there is no rush, i was asking why they dont seem like they are in a rush. | 16:47:40 |
alexanderpart | And i have no idea what the part team can offer investors, there is no shares or anything aside from coins. | 16:48:02 |
rutherford | <btmr@discord>: Ugh sorry mate, don't know why I misread your text. | 18:15:37 |
rutherford | <btmr@discord>:
Not to occupy this channel here but yeah, I'm curious myself as to how external investment would work. Only two things to offer: 1) part 2) tech 1) At current price, they would have to give away a lot of part, which would go against the mission statement. 2) Would be even more puzzlingI | 18:27:39 |
mbacoinin | In reply to @rutherford:matrix.orgHow about offering them a vision from the team itself ? | 18:41:35 |
mbacoinin | In reply to @alexanderpart:matrix.orgcoins and shares in the case of Particl are the same thing. | 18:43:16 |