| 17 May 2018 |
 TravisR | USP means a couple things to me, which are you referring to here? | 19:00:38 |
 @cadair:cadair.com | Unique selling point | 19:00:56 |
| TravisR | ah, very different than user support policy :p | 19:01:11 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | Lol | 19:01:21 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | Tricksy acronyms | 19:01:45 |
| TravisR | The scope here so far is just "make a client that I'd use on a daily basis". It's doubling as an experiment and playground though, which is why it's bad in some areas. | 19:02:18 |
| *  MTRNord would love to see it replacing riot in my daily use ;P | 19:02:51 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | ALL THE CLIENTS | 19:03:26 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | 😀😊😆 | 19:03:34 |
| TravisR | Eventually the plan will probably shift towards being yet another slack replacement. This would technically be a competitor to Riot, but there'd be no animosity between the projects (hopefully) | 19:03:51 |
| TravisR | Although by nature of me writing a ton of bots and some bridges, Evelium will be more focused on the integrations side of things to make it The Last Client You'll Need. | 19:05:58 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | Lol | 19:06:12 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | Without wanting to fan a flame war, what are the major drawbacks in Riot that you will not want to repeat? | 19:06:40 |
| TravisR | In the short term, the layout of the room list. I've never really been a huge fan of every matrix client saying Favourites, People, Rooms, Low Priority (and all tags showing 10 rooms by default). | 19:08:52 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | Yeah it's not great. I found that Fractal post about that problem interesting. | 19:09:24 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | Do you have something in mind, because I was struggling to envision something I thought would work. | 19:09:53 |
| TravisR | Yea, and one of their declined solutions is what Evelium does :p | 19:09:59 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | I did try and login to Evelium a while ago but it just borked lol | 19:10:42 |
| TravisR | The mockup looks like this: | 19:11:10 |
| TravisR | 
Download image.png | 19:11:12 |
| TravisR | Reality changed though: | 19:11:32 |
| TravisR | 
Download image.png | 19:11:34 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | Lol, so many rooms | 19:11:55 |
| @cadair:cadair.com | It's a hard problem to solve. How best to sort 200+ rooms is tricky. Riot does not do it well. | 19:12:46 |
| * @cadair:cadair.com ponders if he could tidy up his riot room list. | 19:13:35 |
| MTRNord | Hmm TravisR that lib makes it very verbose:
From:
<span class="timestamp" [title]="fullTimestamp">{{ timestamp }}</span>
To:
<span class="timestamp" title="{{(timestamp | amFromUnix) | amDateFormat:'dddd, MMMM Do YYYY, h:mm:ss a'}}">{{(timestamp | amFromUnix) | amTimeAgo }}</span>
| 19:13:37 |
| TravisR | somewhat related: one thing I have decided is that people who hate padding/margins on things will not like Evelium. The excessive padding on the room list mockup is intentional, and a compact design isn't on the plan at all. | 19:14:24 |
| TravisR | MTRNord: Might be best to break that out to a tiny component like the spinner is then? | 19:15:05 |
| MTRNord |
MTRNord: Might be best to break that out to a tiny component like the spinner is then?
TravisR yeah propably will do that after testing it :)
| 19:15:32 |
| TravisR | fair enough :p | 19:15:44 |
