| 12 Sep 2023 |
 ramblurr |
- indeed! and its for this reason I always keep a couple shellys as spares. though i haven't had one die on me yet in 2 years of operation
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| ramblurr |
- That would only happen as a result of some automation you configured in HA that isn't behaving properly.. but is equally applicable to all other types of remote light/switch control
| 09:25:34 |
| ramblurr | *
- is also possible. That would only happen as a result of some automation you configured in HA that isn't behaving properly.. but is equally applicable to all other types of remote light/switch control
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 JulianF | Thanks for all that! | 09:26:12 |
| ramblurr | The biggest pushback I get from Shelly's when I advocate for them is that people prefer zigbee/zwave devices to 2.4ghz wifi devices like the Shellys | 09:26:23 |
| JulianF | I wonder how many of my switch locations have access to both live and neutral as required. (Uncommon here in the UK I think.) Maybe some of them do, or I can pull a wire through. One day... one day. | 09:26:59 |
| ramblurr | ..to which I can only shrug..I've tested tons of zigbee options (never done zwave) and for me the Shellys are the most bulletproof. They just work reliably and don't drive my family crazy with long delays or the "it didn't work yesterday so it wont work today" feelings that Chris/Alex discussed on the last podcast | 09:27:28 |
| ramblurr | the Shelly 1L can be installed without a neutral. I've never tested it though, luckily where I am in Austria, all drops have neutral | 09:30:12 |
| JulianF | Oh, thanks again! I'd forgotten if I previously knew about that version. | 09:33:31 |
 BeardedTek | I personally prefer the Sonoff Mini R2. At $11 it's small and affordable. I use these in my multi-way switches. | 18:27:27 |
| BeardedTek | https://sonoff.tech/product/diy-smart-switches/minir2/ | 18:27:44 |
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