| 17 Dec 2022 |
 imbev | a social media style matrix client | 14:35:13 |
 erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | I'm confused. | 17:05:54 |
| imbev | it will act like reddit, twitter, etc, but use the Matrix protocol | 17:07:37 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | So like Lemmy and Mastodon? | 17:11:09 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | Will it federate with that? | 17:11:17 |
 valka | In reply to @erebion:erebion.eu
Will it federate with that? no because they're activitypub. The closest thing that probably exists is cerulean https://matrix.org/blog/2020/12/18/introducing-cerulean | 17:12:08 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | Then why not use the protocol that's already gaining traction? | 17:14:07 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | Will it not just divide communities further without interoperability? | 17:14:23 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | I mean, I like Matrix. Just wonder why Matrix. | 17:14:54 |
| valka | matrix is literally *the* interoperability protocol though - and has over 60 million users | 17:15:22 |
| valka | I'm not a dev here so I can't say, but it would be cool to see an actual social media platform on matrix - especially once matrix goes p2p. | 17:15:57 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | 
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| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | It'd be cool, but this xkcd sums up my fears. | 17:16:18 |
| valka | https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/841424770025545730 | 17:16:43 |
| valka | mastodon has a lot of issues | 17:17:02 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | In reply to @erebion:erebion.eu
It'd be cool, but this xkcd sums up my fears. I don't really prefer any of these two for a technical reason, just for this reason I wonder what the decision looks like. | 17:17:03 |
| valka | well, mastodon has no encryption for one | 17:19:39 |
 mirdaki | There are strengths and weakness with ActivityPub and Matrix respectively. A big one, ActivityPub has not native concept of E2EE, which is fairly important if you want to have private communications that are truly private
Although both federate and both can be bridged together, they both do that in very different ways. Besides, I think a strength of open source is that we can play around with different approaches in the open and learn from each other | 17:19:46 |
| valka | so that immediately puts it in a very different class | 17:19:52 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | In reply to @valka:fairydust.space
https://twitter.com/matrixdotorg/status/841424770025545730 I like how one service died, three are dying. xD | 17:19:51 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | In reply to @valka:fairydust.space
well, mastodon has no encryption for one Reddit does not have either, if this is supposed to be like Reddit, I don't see the issue. | 17:20:21 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | In reply to @matthew:boowho.me
There are strengths and weakness with ActivityPub and Matrix respectively. A big one, ActivityPub has not native concept of E2EE, which is fairly important if you want to have private communications that are truly private
Although both federate and both can be bridged together, they both do that in very different ways. Besides, I think a strength of open source is that we can play around with different approaches in the open and learn from each other Yup. | 17:20:40 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | I'll definitely follow this and might at a later point join for some UI translations. :) | 17:21:05 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | Any RSS feed with a blog or some easy low traffic way of following what's going on? | 17:21:45 |
| mirdaki | In reply to @erebion:erebion.eu
Reddit does not have either, if this is supposed to be like Reddit, I don't see the issue. We (the open source community) aren't limited to being like what already exists. We don't need to be a clone of something that's already out there. It may be like Reddit in some regards, but remixed to be something different
The reason I follow projects like this is to see where they go
| 17:22:50 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | Same. | 17:29:47 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | And if it goes anywhere I'm here for translations to/from English/German/Swedish/Norwegian as I like seeing UI in multiple laguages, but I figured it's way too early for that. | 17:30:43 |
 mondstern | In reply to @erebion:erebion.eu
And if it goes anywhere I'm here for translations to/from English/German/Swedish/Norwegian as I like seeing UI in multiple laguages, but I figured it's way too early for that. Me too ;) | 17:31:24 |
| erebion 🏳️🌈♾ | In reply to @mondstern:matrix.sp-codes.de
Me too ;) For what languages? :D | 17:32:06 |
| mondstern | Anyway. I have translated into 73 languages this year. | 17:37:59 |
