| 22 Oct 2020 |
 Jeffrey H. Johnson | Properly written software with autotools should just cross out of the box but most authors don't do what's necessary to make that work | 23:05:06 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | You have more success with Go because the programmers in general don't need to do anything extra | 23:05:37 |
 majestrate | i think that's a mark of a good language if anything | 23:06:23 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | They could still do things like add in a macro system or a preprocessor | 23:07:24 |
| majestrate | why ruin a good language with macros? | 23:08:14 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | Tags and buildmodes and suffix switching isn't always enough | 23:08:28 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | Using macros you can reduce a lot of copied code if you need to use platform specific stuff via suffix switching and let people build without requiring using build tags | 23:10:15 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | Also a preprocessor combined with a macro system would let you essentially inline things that would otherwise need to be extra calls | 23:11:33 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | I get their motivation though, all of that is going to make things less readable or less immediately apparent at a glance | 23:12:44 |
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 obsessive | does yggdrasil work with iSH? (app) | 23:19:19 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | Probably would without tun/tap | 23:20:43 |
| 23 Oct 2020 |
 neilalexander | obsessive: We have an actual iOS app which runs as a VPN provider | 07:48:00 |
| obsessive | im aware and it will probably work out of the box but that's likely boring 😄 iSH is in the app store and looks fun to tinker with. curious if someone gave yggdrasil a try | 07:52:07 |
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| tolstoevsky set a profile picture. | 09:04:29 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | Arceliar neilalexander https://github.com/pkt-cash/pktd/issues/82, not sure if you test on go-dev, but this was some weirdness | 10:23:25 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | Just a heads up | 10:23:57 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | neilalexander:
Author: Jeff Johnson <jeff@gridfinity.com>
Date: Fri Oct 23 10:28:48 2020 -0400
Default back to MADV_DONTNEED on Linux
| 14:31:27 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | ah, nothing like patching the go runtime | 14:31:37 |
| neilalexander | Why patch the runtime? | 14:32:14 |
| neilalexander | Put GODEBUG=madvdontneed=1 into your environment :-) | 14:32:28 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | The problem is poor interaction with overcommit enabled. | 14:35:23 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | And it's not always my environment :) | 14:35:43 |
| Jeffrey H. Johnson | In this case, yes, but soon it might not always be in the general case. | 14:35:57 |
| obsessive | lol i can actually compile inside iSH and connect to a peer! had to disable tun though. that it means it acts as a router right | 22:19:25 |
| 24 Oct 2020 |
 Tristan B. Kildaire | what is iSH? | 17:40:53 |
| neilalexander | It's an iOS app that emulates an x86 Linux environment | 17:41:28 |
|  Revertron | 20:06:12 |
| 25 Oct 2020 |
|  λrthur Rasmusson🐡 changed their display name from λrcVRArthur🐡 to λrthur Rasmusson🐡. | 00:29:36 |
