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22 Oct 2020
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@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-Adminhttps://bits.debian.org/2020/10/debian-donation-peertube.html13:23:42
@stallman:maunium.netrmsI'd just like to interject for one moment. Debian's Social Contract states the goal of making Debian entirely free software, and Debian conscientiously keeps nonfree software out of the official Debian system. However, Debian also provides a repository of nonfree software. According to the project, this software is "not part of the Debian system," but the repository is hosted on many of the project's main servers, and people can readily learn about these nonfree packages by browsing Debian's online package database. There is also a "contrib" repository; its packages are free, but some of them exist to load separately distributed proprietary programs. This too is not thoroughly separated from the main Debian distribution. Previous releases of Debian included nonfree blobs with the kernel. With the release of Debian 6.0 ("squeeze") in February 2011, these blobs have been moved out of the main distribution to separate packages in the nonfree repository. However, the problem partly remains: the installer in some cases recommends these nonfree firmware files for the peripherals on the machine.13:23:43
@paulbrzeski:perthchat.orgkablez rms: If the issue is just firmware and drivers, that's kind of understandable I think? If they're promoting Chrome over Chromium and pushing DLC heavy platforms there's probably an issue though. 13:27:17
@paulbrzeski:perthchat.orgkablezMaybe this can be solved with some clever marketing/branding? When Debian uses nonfree, it could rename itself to "Barely Debian" or something, indicating it's not an ideal version of Debian13:28:26
@stallman:maunium.netrmsI'd just like to interject for one moment. Debian's Social Contract states the goal of making Debian entirely free software, and Debian conscientiously keeps nonfree software out of the official Debian system. However, Debian also provides a repository of nonfree software. According to the project, this software is "not part of the Debian system," but the repository is hosted on many of the project's main servers, and people can readily learn about these nonfree packages by browsing Debian's online package database. There is also a "contrib" repository; its packages are free, but some of them exist to load separately distributed proprietary programs. This too is not thoroughly separated from the main Debian distribution. Previous releases of Debian included nonfree blobs with the kernel. With the release of Debian 6.0 ("squeeze") in February 2011, these blobs have been moved out of the main distribution to separate packages in the nonfree repository. However, the problem partly remains: the installer in some cases recommends these nonfree firmware files for the peripherals on the machine.13:28:38
@paulbrzeski:perthchat.orgkablezKind of like how Windows complains it's pirated13:28:35
@paulbrzeski:perthchat.orgkablez * rms: If the issue is just firmware and drivers, that's kind of understandable I think? If they're promoting Chrome over Chromium and pushing DLC heavy platforms there's probably an issue though. 13:31:41
@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-Adminone day you'll be the real rms13:36:53
@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-Adminwhen i wish upon a star13:36:57
@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-Admindoesn't matter who you are, unless your Stallman, praise him13:37:16
@paulbrzeski:perthchat.orgkablezOh I thought it was someone using his name haha13:43:04
@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-Adminlel13:49:36
@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-Adminthey've made it gradually most sophisticated over the last few years, it doesn't get triggered if you say GNU/Linux13:50:28
@heady:matrix.orgheadyit's ok we are all bots on matrix13:50:34
@heady:matrix.orgheadyonly discord users are real13:51:35
@paulbrzeski:perthchat.orgkablezinstagram users are all integers13:58:34
23 Oct 2020
@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-AdminMicrosoft Edge for Linux: https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=212460201:06:42
@stallman:maunium.netrmsI'd just like to interject for one moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.01:06:46
@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-AdminI mean GNU/Linux, i'm sorry my lord!01:10:37
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@heady:matrix.orgheadyy tho07:00:29
@PC-Admin:perthchat.orgPC-Adminpretty much heh07:18:22

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