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19 Jun 2018
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16:18:37@Jikstra:matrix.orgNostradamosnever used it, but sounds bad. Enterprise ready.
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18:58:20@kythyria:berigora.netkythyriaCan't it just write to stdout or syslog like civilised people?
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19:01:01@swedneck:matrix.orgswedneckthat sounds awful, jesus
19:07:38@kythyria:berigora.netkythyria Also, why is it writing to /usr?
19:07:41@kythyria:berigora.netkythyriaWhy not /var?
19:08:09@kythyria:berigora.netkythyriaThat's actually worse than using an initscript
19:08:25@kythyria:berigora.netkythyriaAt least you can refer to the initscript from a service unit (and systemd will even write the unit for you)
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19:42:19@mrjnox:matrix.orgDoYouShaveYourQubes kythyria: exactly. I communicated this to our vendor, citing FHS, and their response was "I believe we can change the installation directory but beyond that would require a lot of code level changes."
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19:43:55@kythyria:berigora.netkythyriaWaaat. Do they have path computations scattered through the code?
19:47:55@kythyria:berigora.netkythyria Note that systemd's file-hierarchy(7) is even more nope about logs in /usr

kythyria: Unsure, as I haven't had the time or motivation to dive into their code yet, only to cringe at them building their own FHS:

[[email protected] ~]# ls -l /usr/local/netPrefect/ServerManager/
total 148
drwx------  2 root root  4096 Jun 19 08:57 bin
drwx------  2 root root  4096 Jun 19 10:48 conf
drwx------  2 root root  4096 Jun 19 08:57 extralib
-rw-------  1 root root 26432 Apr 10 11:48 lesser.txt
drwx------  2 root root  4096 Jun 19 08:57 lib
-rw-------  1 root root 11358 Apr 10 11:48 LICENSE-2.0.txt
-rw-------  1 root root 16857 Apr 10 11:48 License.txt
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Jun 19 10:46 log
-rw-------  1 root root 51855 Apr 10 11:48 Readme.txt
drwx------  2 root root  4096 Jun 19 08:57 support
drwxrwxrwx 26 root root  4096 Jun 19 14:59 temp
drwx------  2 root root  4096 Jun 19 08:57 Uninstaller
drwx------ 11 root root  4096 Jun 19 08:57 yajsw

Thanks for the man page ref; I'll keep that in my back pocket with them.

20:09:19@kythyria:berigora.netkythyria systemd doesn't specify /opt, but FHS does
20:10:38@kythyria:berigora.netkythyria Though FHS says /opt is for package and stuff installed without the help of the package manager goes in /usr/local.
20:10:53@kythyria:berigora.netkythyria However, /usr/local/netPrefect is not FHS compliant!
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