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5 Apr 2020
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin Yes. You want the lightning on regular phone for day to day use. Keep the Samourai for storage or main "savings" or hodling account 17:53:40
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_syncOK this is starting to make sense now, thanks18:29:07
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk BitcoinGlad about that, takes a bit but then you fly. Here if you need us 😉 Be great if you give us an endorsement on your platforms or follow us on twitter @SidewalkBitcoin Cheers18:39:41
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_syncI shall.18:40:21
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_sync I'm kind of back to square one with phoenix acinq 18:40:39
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_sync It's got all these options like new account or recovery phase and a whole bunch of others 18:41:17
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_syncOr backup18:41:52
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin New seeds etc for each wallet, often different words for same things ie seed words, seed phrase mnemonics phrase- all the same thing.
Addresses in lightning remain same but Samourai gives you a new one every time for each new transaction...
The seed phrases are needed to restore/ move to a new device etc. Passwords for access wallet, 2fa for security. Repeat each time for each wallet and store records clearly and separately and you should be ok. They all have their individual quirks. If you want to test out I'll give you my address, send a few sats and I'll return them straight away. Let me know
19:04:48
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_sync
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New seeds etc for each wallet, often different words for same things ie seed words, seed phrase mnemonics phrase- all the same thing.
Addresses in lightning remain same but Samourai gives you a new one every time for each new transaction...
The seed phrases are needed to restore/ move to a new device etc. Passwords for access wallet, 2fa for security. Repeat each time for each wallet and store records clearly and separately and you should be ok. They all have their individual quirks. If you want to test out I'll give you my address, send a few sats and I'll return them straight away. Let me know
I does that mean I need to restore
19:55:12
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin
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I does that mean I need to restore
No, only when switching devices, then all those passwords and seed phrase is essential. All those stories about people searching tips for old computers etc are prob nonsense as all you have ever needed is those few phrases etc
20:06:39
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin Once setup it will become super easy. This initial setup plus the concepts is the only struggle really, after that it's all about accumulating, earning or transacting 20:08:48
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_syncThanks20:49:20
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_sync So I go into phoenix for 1st time , do I go to 'new wallet' or 'restore my wallet'? 20:50:16
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin
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Thanks
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20:50:25
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_sync Sorry I mean in 'new wallet'. Do I go to 'back up my wallet' or 'set a pin'? 20:55:47
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin
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Sorry I mean in 'new wallet'. Do I go to 'back up my wallet' or 'set a pin'?
Set up pin, store seeds then backup if needed. In breez they offer to backup after every transaction. Its worth doing from time to time for sure. In Phoenix in settings, security you can use biometrics if you prefer but still only pass and seeds. I see no backup options, I think its referring to recovery phrase and prompting you to write down seeds. Theres a little fear icon bottom left of screen
21:13:37
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin
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Set up pin, store seeds then backup if needed. In breez they offer to backup after every transaction. Its worth doing from time to time for sure. In Phoenix in settings, security you can use biometrics if you prefer but still only pass and seeds. I see no backup options, I think its referring to recovery phrase and prompting you to write down seeds. Theres a little fear icon bottom left of screen
Typo... gear icon
21:14:25
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_syncThanks. Then what is next? Do I go to receive?21:47:44
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin Once setup, that's it or are you wanting to perform a test transaction? 21:54:00
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_syncFor example, when I want to add some satoshis that I have bought from a machine/earned.. I will do that on phoenix?22:17:20
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin If you want to, yes, for convenience and small amounts otherwise for storage send to Samourai if they're already "on-chain" and not in lightning.
So paste receiving address into the the wallet you're sending from (or give address to sender) along with amount, hit send
Or sometimes you send an invoice for payment to the receive counterparty, they fill in and send to you. Essentially you provide the address you want funds sent to one way or the other..
22:28:40
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin Post your phoenix address and I'll send you some Sats it you like? 22:29:42
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk BitcoinYour recieve address that is. No worries with security as its o public address and you need to give it if you want payment made... if that makes sense22:31:52
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin
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So I go into phoenix for 1st time , do I go to 'new wallet' or 'restore my wallet'?
New wallet
22:33:07
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk BitcoinRestore my wallet is where you would have to answer seed word questions etc to use/install old wallet on new device22:34:53
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@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_sync I think that is it. Thanks so much. I was looking to share your page on Facebook but I can't find it. I don't have twitter 22:51:45
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin Could you screen shot the qr code image as that's not sending. Also double check it's the recieve address 23:19:59
@sidewalkbitcoin:matrix.orgSidewalk Bitcoin That's saying unknown peer. Quick search says node not available. I've sent to myself and worked ok so double check it's a recieve address you sent me 23:34:32
@harry_sync:matrix.orgharry_syncRedacted or Malformed Event23:56:36

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