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22 May 2020
20:17:05@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽 Telegram security is ridiculous.
20:17:10@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽
In reply to @ludwig:disko.media
I would like to see some discussion with the people of Signal, maybe Telegram. They at least claim to have a similar mission to Matrix!
* Telegram security is ridiculous.
20:18:18@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽Messages are encrypted on the server when Secret Chat feature is disabled.
20:19:00@AndresCuccaro:matrix.orgAndyStill, it would be nice to hear their thoughts on how they do what they do and what their values are, etc.
20:19:07@AndresCuccaro:matrix.orgAndy * Still, it would be nice to hear their thoughts on how they do what they do and what their values are, etc.
20:19:15@kim:sosnowkadub.dekimtelegram is another "fake oss" except they may be oss but more of a entrepreneurial attitude otherwise. that's at least my impression; i never tried as phone number is a dealbreaker for me
20:19:40@kim:sosnowkadub.dekimux is pretty good i'm told
20:20:26@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽Telegram is marketing bullshit. Privacy… security… encryption… blah, blah, blah. E2EE is not even enabled by default, wtf?
20:20:46@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽And they created their own obscure protocol instead of using something that already works, such as Signal Protocol.
20:21:46@AndresCuccaro:matrix.orgAndy
In reply to @kim:sosnowkadub.de
ux is pretty good i'm told
their ux is really pleasant to use, that's true
20:22:08@AndresCuccaro:matrix.orgAndyI only use it with a friend, and mostly to just see how others are doing things
20:22:23@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽
In reply to @AndresCuccaro:matrix.org
their ux is really pleasant to use, that's true
Yeah, that's completely true.
20:28:28@michael:downey.netMichael DowneyTrying to find alternatives to Signal now that they have doubled down on the road to mandatory cloud storage of user content.
20:30:42@michael:downey.netMichael DowneyRedacted or Malformed Event
20:36:50@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽
In reply to @michael:downey.net
Trying to find alternatives to Signal now that they have doubled down on the road to mandatory cloud storage of user content.
Uhh, I just installed Signal after reading an issue where a person said you could have a username so people won't know your phone number, but it was a lie.
20:41:35@michael:downey.netMichael Downey Not sure about the ability to work back to a phone number from a username. But they're also on track to store all (encrypted) messages on their servers too, in the name of "easier restore".
20:43:18@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽Well, as long as they're safely stored without any metadata at all, it is probably not bad.
20:43:54@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽And as long as you can disable backups.
20:44:03@avalos:cybre.spaceavalos 🇲🇽And as long as you can run your own instance.
20:53:25@kim:sosnowkadub.dekim
their servers
23 May 2020
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26 May 2020
08:50:41@benpa:bpulse.orgbenpa
In reply to @AndresCuccaro:matrix.org
benpa: I was thinking that for some upcoming OTWSU it could be interesting to have leaders of some other "competing" projects, like Rocket.chat and Mattermost, for example.
this is a good suggestion

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