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9 Oct 2021
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10 Oct 2021
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@hellokozmo:matrix.orgChris Harris

This is an interesting point thanks! Do you think it might make the future case for some kind of roaming server + distributed global username public key discovery service? or does that just shift the same problem to another layer.

e.g if emorrp1.name goes down, how do I find (and trust) your :matrix.org username :)

could one export/import their user keys somehow? (to solve the trust layer)

21:25:44
@hellokozmo:matrix.orgChris Harris
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The problem is, counter intuitively, that this partial degradation is harder to understand and take action for than simply "WhatsApp is completely down, guess we'll use SMS with the same contacts identifier".

So yes, technically like email, this kind of outage is good marketing for decentralisation, it's mostly of use as an internal argument for tech leads to point to managers about the downsides of "The Cloud".

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This is an interesting point thanks! Do you think it might make the future case for some kind of roaming server + distributed global username public key discovery service? or does that just shift the same problem to another layer.

e.g if emorrp1.name goes down, how do I find (and trust) your :matrix.org username :)

could one export/import their user keys somehow? (to solve the trust layer)

21:26:06
@emorrp1:freedombox.emorrp1.nameemorrp1

Chris Harris: to an extent, that's what MSC 2787 Portable Identities is trying to solve. Like with email, because I control my own domain name it's less of an issue long term than using a provider that may disappear.

It's a hard problem to go beyond WoT (pgp), TOFU (ssh), or Trusted Authorities (https). For identity continuity across social platforms in general, I like the idea of a canonical profile of signed social proofs

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11 Oct 2021
@DzzzzzzR:matrix.orgdazinismThe way the zot protocol provides nomadic identities / cloning of identities is interesting. Can have multiple clones on different servers and as long as one stays up you can still communicate with all your zot contacts. Can even make an offline backup of your channel, delete all online instances, and restore the backup to any server at a later date and retain the connections with all your contacts. https://zotlabs.org/help/developer/zot_protocol#Identity_10:06:48
@DzzzzzzR:matrix.orgdazinismThis Hubzilla intro page may be useful for folks not familiar https://zotlabs.org/page/hubzilla/hubzilla-project Zot works with other client/server software other than Hubzilla, I think most notably Zap micro blogging, although i haven't been closely following developments recently10:14:24
12 Oct 2021
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14 Oct 2021
@numero6:codelutin.comnuméro6Hi everyone. I've made a matrix space to gather all the spaces and channels about technologies to build the next internet. It's all about decentralization, federation, p2p: things that OTWSU public should enjoy. I've made it for me (to sort my matrix client) but since I can share for free... https://matrix.to/#/!pdQAOKnDYXIMJeaMXN:codelutin.com?via=codelutin.com (proper pretty :matrix id upcoming)13:01:11
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@emorrp1:freedombox.emorrp1.nameemorrp1 numéro6: you should share it in #roomoftheweek:fachschaften.org 13:13:02
@simon.brandner:envs.netŠimon BrandnerThat almost ate my whole space panel 😄14:15:15
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15 Oct 2021
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16 Oct 2021
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18 Oct 2021
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@numero6:codelutin.comnuméro6
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Hi everyone. I've made a matrix space to gather all the spaces and channels about technologies to build the next internet. It's all about decentralization, federation, p2p: things that OTWSU public should enjoy. I've made it for me (to sort my matrix client) but since I can share for free... https://matrix.to/#/!pdQAOKnDYXIMJeaMXN:codelutin.com?via=codelutin.com (proper pretty :matrix id upcoming)
I've gathered nearly everything I was looking for. I even have found things about GunDB and the bluesky project. Matrix gather so many cool people rigth now. I've even added things about mesh network and DIY ISPs... It's bit of a mess now 😅 but I guess it's part of Matthew's dmoz revival dream 😉
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19 Oct 2021
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21 Oct 2021
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