|22 May 2020|
|20:17:05||avalos 🇲🇽|| Telegram security is ridiculous. |
|20:17:10||avalos 🇲🇽|| |
In reply to @ludwig:disko.media * Telegram security is ridiculous.
I would like to see some discussion with the people of Signal, maybe Telegram. They at least claim to have a similar mission to Matrix!
|20:18:18||avalos 🇲🇽||Messages are encrypted on the server when Secret Chat feature is disabled.|
|20:19:00||Andy||Still, it would be nice to hear their thoughts on how they do what they do and what their values are, etc.|
|20:19:07||Andy|| * Still, it would be nice to hear their thoughts on how they do what they do and what their values are, etc.|
|20:19:15||kim||telegram is another "fake oss" except they may be oss but more of a entrepreneurial attitude otherwise. that's at least my impression; i never tried as phone number is a dealbreaker for me|
|20:19:40||kim||ux is pretty good i'm told|
|20:20:26||avalos 🇲🇽||Telegram is marketing bullshit. Privacy… security… encryption… blah, blah, blah. E2EE is not even enabled by default, wtf?|
|20:20:46||avalos 🇲🇽||And they created their own obscure protocol instead of using something that already works, such as Signal Protocol.|
In reply to @kim:sosnowkadub.de their ux is really pleasant to use, that's true
ux is pretty good i'm told
|20:22:08||Andy||I only use it with a friend, and mostly to just see how others are doing things|
|20:22:23||avalos 🇲🇽|| |
In reply to @AndresCuccaro:matrix.org Yeah, that's completely true.
their ux is really pleasant to use, that's true
|20:28:28||Michael Downey||Trying to find alternatives to Signal now that they have doubled down on the road to mandatory cloud storage of user content.|
|20:30:42||Michael Downey||Redacted or Malformed Event|
|20:36:50||avalos 🇲🇽|| |
In reply to @michael:downey.net Uhh, I just installed Signal after reading an issue where a person said you could have a username so people won't know your phone number, but it was a lie.
Trying to find alternatives to Signal now that they have doubled down on the road to mandatory cloud storage of user content.
|20:41:35||Michael Downey|| Not sure about the ability to work back to a phone number from a username. But they're also on track to store all (encrypted) messages on their servers too, in the name of "easier restore". |
|20:43:18||avalos 🇲🇽||Well, as long as they're safely stored without any metadata at all, it is probably not bad.|
|20:43:54||avalos 🇲🇽||And as long as you can disable backups.|
|20:44:03||avalos 🇲🇽||And as long as you can run your own instance.|
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In reply to @AndresCuccaro:matrix.org this is a good suggestion
benpa: I was thinking that for some upcoming OTWSU it could be interesting to have leaders of some other "competing" projects, like Rocket.chat and Mattermost, for example.